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The president of the European 
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Council sham on the topic from 
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playing uh from playing field 
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to play Europe Strategic 
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autonomy SR Generations School. 
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Thank you so much uh uh mister 
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president for joining us for 
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this debate um today um the 
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plan of today’s debate is first 
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to hear your uh keynote speech 
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um and following your keynote 
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speech, there will be time for 
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us to engage in a debate, but 
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of course. For you in the 
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audience to join us in this 
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debate and ask your questions 
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for that you need to go on the 
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website do SLI Dot DO and type 
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in the word autonomy autonomy 
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and then you can ask your 
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questions and I will see some 
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of your questions the questions 
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here on my smartphone and pick 
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some of those not all of them, 
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but some of those and post them 
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to the president without much 
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further ado. Let me thank you 
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again and uh I look forward to 
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Share worth of ladies and 

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gentlemen, please use it to I 

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gentlemen, please use it to I 
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love you too. Oh thanks to the 
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kids in the Allan have one but 
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you see the term and have to 
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look to the taste of what we’re 
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talking about Europe when the 
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economy we saw sovereignty Musa 
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the you can have different. 
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This with him but I would like 
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to start on the substance, but 
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don’t you not change that to me 
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is it’s not the I think it’s 
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the opposite. I’d like to show 
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that respect to electrocuted on 
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the time in the city is 
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certainly not, that they are 
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formula. Must be not the same, 
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but we’re hoping he holds me to 
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say that but it doesn’t it 
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wasn’t it’s three decades of 
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the single this kitchen and the 

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the single this kitchen and the 
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further this and large in this 
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country, which has consolidated 
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the institutional framework of 
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the European Union and it’s 
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it’s autonomous it each of 
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And if you have any questions 
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and uh yeah, it’s a family. 
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just like effects the effect 
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that I knew this, but we and 
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that’s that role and 
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bureaucracy such a simple to 
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get. It’s the number to me. de 
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l’Union européenne. C’est un 
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peu comme dans l’e de 
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Steak? Par le emprozz sans le 
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savoir. Monsieur Jordan. Les 
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Européens sont devenus 
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européennes. Sans le savoir. Et 
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je voudrais mentionner à ce 
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diplomatie climatique. Nous 
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sommes comme européens à 
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l’avant-dernière, dans la lutte 
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avant. En deux-mille-dix-huit, 
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il y a pas si longtemps que 
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quelques pays pionniers se sont 
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engagés sur la neutralité 
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carbone en deux-mille-cinq. In 
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2015, it’s. we tried to do this 
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and mobilize and young people 
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and in December 2019 that 
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indeed but also $11 no, it’s 
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not it’s green and it’s no. 
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it’s no so committed to the 
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idea of 2015. It’s right across 
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the victory for the subject and 
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I approve this message to the 
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l’engagement chinois sur 
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concrétise. Mais c’est un dans 

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concrétise. Mais c’est un dans 
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la bonne discussion. Mesdames 
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et messieurs pourquoi donc? Le 
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choix d’une autonomie 
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stratégique européenne. À mes 
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yeux encore plus essentiel 
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globalisé a beaucoup changé. Et 

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globalisé a beaucoup changé. Et 
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aussi par ce club, un arc 
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s’est développé tout autour 
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d’extension naturelle et 
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inoffensive de l’espace 
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démocratique européen a été 
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réussite en U treize, la 
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Russie. Il y a perçu un danger 
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géopolitique majeur et qui a 
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accepté à une partie de son 
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territoire et une guerre à 
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l’est qui déstabilise 
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durablement le I’m not in the 
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east of the country. It means 
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the whole region even more and 
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in once again the challenges 
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eastern borders or don’t don’t 
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it’s a great deal. It’s going 
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on in the Cogo I wanted to 
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grease and. Et c’est la raison 
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pour laquelle vous saviez le 
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l’aide position stratégique 
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européenne en lien de cette 
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région, je vais leur proposer 
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l’organisation d’une conférence 
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multilatérale serait abordée et 
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des limitations maritimes, les 
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économique. Au sud de l’Europe, 
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l’Afrique Et concernant 
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l’Afrique, je sens. Africain. 
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de ses dirigeants. Oui. Combien 
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probablement continuer à se 
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tromper? L’énergie. La vitalité 
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en Afrique peuvent ouvrir. Ah. 
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Le chemin vers une alliance 
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sans précédent. Que de nous. 
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européens. J’espère que nous 
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positive. right now and now we 
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have the reference stranded the 
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results of that has really been 
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happen in some years old the 
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result and when you are and 
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where are we well, the United 
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States you know hopping is 
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alimentaire, environnementaux 
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formes d’abaissement à sou 
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concurrence probablement 
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déloyale et injuste, devant 
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d’autres régions d’une guerre. 
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la réponse a cette façon-là, 
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Avec les États-Unis des valeurs 
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et de l’histoire, sourd et de 
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partage. Des fois jeux 
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politique contraire. Européens. 
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multilatéralisme. Le retrait 
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des accords de Paris, la 
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dénoncertion de l’accord sur 
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les Iraniens à spectre round 
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ministère Nature of the 
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declaration on the fifteenth of 
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October uh doing formal uh 
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Thanks very much Pierre any 
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CA Peace, Poland, 

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Thank you very much. Robert I 
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thank you for the presentation, 
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but first of all I would like 
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to thank you very much for the 
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hard work that you have done 
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and it’s a pleasure to work 
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with you and you’re always 
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reopening for. I look forward 
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to discussing all ours to come 
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again. Thank you for for this 
is Kevin a concerning the 

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is Kevin a concerning the 
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waters of uh lot of draft of 
the declaration to let them out 

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the declaration to let them out 
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there. It’s going in the right 
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direction, but we will still 
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have some questions that don’t 
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regarding the. Uh connection 
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federation model and not having 
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federation um between um a 
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member states and uh we would 
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like to know what kind of legal 
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form for for the cloud of this 
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is you of course you do on that 
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we need to. La Corée du Nord, 
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nous sommes de démocratie qui 
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parle débarque européen 
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européen, garantissant la 
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légitimité de logiciel et ses 
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capacités à surmonter a fixé le 
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cas. Nous l’avons démontré face 
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auxquels je le crois à créer un 
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à assister. Mille-huit-cents 
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euros, mobilisés au départ, la 
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et de transformation. Cette 
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décision je pense restera un 
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moment clé, nous sommes 
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capables de les mobiliser face 
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à le défi euh, intérieur, mais 
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nous avons bien sûr le devoir 
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aussi de transposer cette 
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capacité. Sur le plan 
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extérieur. Autonomie 
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stratégique, doit poursuivre, 
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je pense, trois autres années. 
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de nos standards. Le troisième, 
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c’est la stabilité. C’est bien 
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sûr la sécurité physique. C’est 
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la paix. C’est aussi. Voilà. La 
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sécurité environnementale, la 
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qualité de l’os. L’eau potable 
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avec les femmes. La 
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biodiversité protégée. Le 
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respect pour laquelle respecte. 
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économique est donc la sécurité 
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sociale. Elle requiert un 
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environnement favorable aux 
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oui. De l’as, le stand Thes 
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you’ll have access to them 
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whether you live a union or 
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whether you want to come close 
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to it now um we also need to 
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make sure we have a security of 
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our strategic supplies now when 
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it comes to um of course, we 
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need to have a secure supply of 
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medical uh medical supplies, 
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but it also applies to other 
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things such as uh rare earths 
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or um uh uh supplies which are 
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transformation as well, now 
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stability is also to do with 
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making sure that the migration 
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policies are dignified and 
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ordered, and that’s the 
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question, which is going to 
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take a lot of our time in the 
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weeks to come now second 
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objective is to preserve our 
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ability to fix standards to set 
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standards. Now this capacity is 
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a. Form of our European power, 
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comes to the use of chemicals, 
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which assure that toys make all 
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around the world are safe. It’s 
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our general regulation on data 
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protection, which has set the 
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world Data Protection standard 
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on the on the internet, and 
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it’s our definitions and uh our 
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aims to um want to get rid of 
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hate speech, which has led to 
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the major. Social media 
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platforms to take action to do 
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that and we’ve seen how you can 
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win the battle of ideas there 
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and win the battle of 
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standards. we were pioneers of 
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environmental technology and by 
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fixing standards in that 
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sector, we actually achieved a 
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double result. Firstly, we’re 
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taking leadership in that area 
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change and I think this 
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illustrates our third 
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economic and social model, 
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which is based on our own 
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shared values quite uniquely in 
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the world and it’s this which 
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number of partners around the 
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world. and it’s the fact that 
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on this foundation, which means 
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we need to um share our others 
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to make the world safer and 
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more fair and to use it to 
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defending fair trade rules that 
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will help us. Create a fairer 
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world and it’s in our interest 
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but also in the interest it’s 
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in the interest of all so 
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ladies and gentlemen we do have 
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solid instruments at our 
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disposal and we should use them 
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use them better. Of course 
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there are financial levers and 
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resources as we’ve seen with 
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the relaunch plan and uh we 
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also have uh competencies that 
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the European Union if it 
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traditionally uses. Uh trade 
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agreements economic governance 
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it’s supervision of the 
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financial markets and it’s uh 
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industrial spatial and digital 
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policies uh as well as using 
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the euro all of these um I mean 
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I’ll leave this weekend can use 
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and uh that’s all we need of 
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course to bear in mind that 
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that is progress that we can 
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make on how to coordinate using 
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these instruments uh to benefit 
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our international. Strategies 
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are represent. excellent 
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foreign minister and that 
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really is the letter and the 
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spirit of the has been treated 
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he’s fully committed to use his 
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experience his skills and as 
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the vice president of the 
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European Commission and 
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President of the uh uh for the 
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first councilor, he has all of 
the political space he needs to 

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the political space he needs to 
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defend our shared values. Now, 
this isn’t an easy task 

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this isn’t an easy task 
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because. Unanimity is needed 
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when it comes to foreign policy 
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decisions and it’s this 
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unanimity and we we know that 
this this question if you you 

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this this question if you you 
is questioned and debated quite 

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is questioned and debated quite 
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often and I’d like to share 
with you um my point of view 

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with you um my point of view 
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here now, of course, sometimes 
the need for unity slows down 

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the need for unity slows down 
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decision-making and makes it 
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impossible, but it’s this 
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requirement, which means that 
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uh we always need to do 
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everything we can to bring 
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member states together around 
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the table and it’s this 
European unity, which is also 

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European unity, which is also 
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You’re in helps the 27 member 

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You’re in helps the 27 member 
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states to reach a decision that 
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they can stand by so I think 
moving away from you could risk 

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moving away from you could risk 
being a false economy or um a 

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being a false economy or um a 
false good idea either. they’re 

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false good idea either. they’re 
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not um other ways that we could 
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move forward on the 
international stage without 

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international stage without 
losing the other of our 

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losing the other of our 
unanimity. now my very modest 

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unanimity. now my very modest 
experience here is in the 

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experience here is in the 
recent months. What? Is that 

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recent months. What? Is that 
diverting points of view, which 

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diverting points of view, which 
seemed major could quite 

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seemed major could quite 
quickly be ironed out after a 

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quickly be ironed out after a 
third debates and we saw that 

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third debates and we saw that 
in China uh proprietary 

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in China uh proprietary 
discussions allowed us to grow 

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discussions allowed us to grow 
together a common position, 

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together a common position, 
which seem to be uh one that 

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which seem to be uh one that 
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member states could also share. 
I’m sure that that will also be 

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I’m sure that that will also be 
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true for for Bella S and 
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eastern Mediterranean. I also 
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I’m optimistic that there to we 
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can express. Shared positions, 
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which I think will be given 
more strength because they are 

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more strength because they are 
unanimous now the major 

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unanimous now the major 
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decisions that we have taken on 
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the budget or on the uh uh. 
recovery fund show once again 

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recovery fund show once again 
that’s when we have robust 

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that’s when we have robust 
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exchange of views that’s 
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indispensable step in the 
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democratic process and it’s on 
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that basis that our decisions 
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have legitimacy because we’ve 
discussed properly now, it’s uh 

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00:18:14,834 --> 00:18:17,867
discussed properly now, it’s uh 
I think also personal. Respect 

430
00:18:17,867 --> 00:18:18,433
I think also personal. Respect 
and trust that are very 

431
00:18:18,433 --> 00:18:19,700
and trust that are very 
important as well and that’s 

432
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important as well and that’s 
why I would like to encourage 

433
00:18:21,667 --> 00:18:25,267
why I would like to encourage 
even our informal interactions 

434
00:18:25,267 --> 00:18:28,234
even our informal interactions 
uh to take place between the 

435
00:18:28,234 --> 00:18:29,000
uh to take place between the 
the Europe’s leaders unity 

436
00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,233
the Europe’s leaders unity 
isn’t spontaneous. it needs 

437
00:18:31,233 --> 00:18:32,533
isn’t spontaneous. it needs 
effort. it needs tenacity and 

438
00:18:32,533 --> 00:18:36,767
effort. it needs tenacity and 
it needs um good will to be 

439
00:18:36,767 --> 00:18:39,934
it needs um good will to be 
maintained 

440
00:18:40,867 --> 00:18:41,733
so ladies and gentlemen and 

441
00:18:41,733 --> 00:18:43,534
so ladies and gentlemen and 
defense is not a European 

442
00:18:43,534 --> 00:18:44,233
defense is not a European 
companies like all the others 

443
00:18:44,233 --> 00:18:47,467
companies like all the others 
and I know they’re all. Of 

444
00:18:47,467 --> 00:18:49,933
and I know they’re all. Of 
national Sensitivities about 

445
00:18:49,933 --> 00:18:53,733
national Sensitivities about 
defense, I think that uh 

446
00:18:53,733 --> 00:18:55,801
defense, I think that uh 
deepening European defense is 

447
00:18:55,801 --> 00:18:56,667
deepening European defense is 
something that’s really 

448
00:18:56,667 --> 00:18:57,967
something that’s really 
necessary. We need to move away 

449
00:18:57,967 --> 00:18:59,333
necessary. We need to move away 
from our ideological 

450
00:18:59,333 --> 00:18:59,933
from our ideological 
sensitivities. Now it’s 

451
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sensitivities. Now it’s 
something which will need to be 

452
00:19:01,767 --> 00:19:05,100
something which will need to be 
developed in time and strategic 

453
00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:08,867
developed in time and strategic 
partnerships with with Nato and 

454
00:19:08,867 --> 00:19:11,800
partnerships with with Nato and 
uh we’ve just given 7000000000 

455
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uh we’ve just given 7000000000 
years of European Defense Fund, 

456
00:19:12,966 --> 00:19:14,666
years of European Defense Fund, 
which is very much in line with 

457
00:19:14,666 --> 00:19:16,667
which is very much in line with 
this stretch and I’d like to uh 

458
00:19:16,667 --> 00:19:21,733
this stretch and I’d like to uh 
also a patriot. Frederick Mr 

459
00:19:21,733 --> 00:19:22,567
also a patriot. Frederick Mr 
and John Paul the strategic 

460
00:19:22,567 --> 00:19:27,267
and John Paul the strategic 
thinking here um. My name is is 

461
00:19:27,267 --> 00:19:30,767
thinking here um. My name is is 
you ladies and gentlemen The 

462
00:19:30,767 --> 00:19:33,533
you ladies and gentlemen The 
European Union is by it’s 

463
00:19:33,533 --> 00:19:35,033
European Union is by it’s 
essence positive force in the 

464
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essence positive force in the 
world. It’s it’s open and 

465
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world. It’s it’s open and 
tolerant, and we know that uh 

466
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tolerant, and we know that uh 
free and uh just exchanges of 

467
00:19:43,666 --> 00:19:45,900
free and uh just exchanges of 
these are very important for 

468
00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:47,300
these are very important for 
our society and it’s a human 

469
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our society and it’s a human 
and enlighten values which uh 

470
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and enlighten values which uh 
uh uh uh run through our 

471
00:19:52,934 --> 00:19:53,900
uh uh uh run through our 
thinking climate neutrality and 

472
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thinking climate neutrality and 
the digital transformation open 

473
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the digital transformation open 
new opportunities for uh. 

474
00:20:03,633 --> 00:20:05,733
And it’s precisely for these 

475
00:20:05,733 --> 00:20:09,533
And it’s precisely for these 
regions that we need to do all 

476
00:20:09,533 --> 00:20:13,267
regions that we need to do all 
we can to um use our 

477
00:20:13,267 --> 00:20:15,700
we can to um use our 
instruments smoker cohesively 

478
00:20:15,700 --> 00:20:17,434
instruments smoker cohesively 
We need to be faithful to our 

479
00:20:17,434 --> 00:20:18,867
We need to be faithful to our 
values. We need to be realistic 

480
00:20:18,867 --> 00:20:21,700
values. We need to be realistic 
and probably a little bit less 

481
00:20:21,700 --> 00:20:25,400
and probably a little bit less 
naive as well and uh be more 

482
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,701
naive as well and uh be more 
just and virtuous in the world 

483
00:20:29,701 --> 00:20:31,034
just and virtuous in the world 
sovereignty independence I 

484
00:20:31,034 --> 00:20:33,234
sovereignty independence I 
emancipation whatever the. 

485
00:20:33,234 --> 00:20:35,067
emancipation whatever the. 
Whatever the word it is, we use 

486
00:20:35,067 --> 00:20:36,900
Whatever the word it is, we use 
it’s the substance, which will 

487
00:20:36,900 --> 00:20:37,533
it’s the substance, which will 
count at the end of the day, 

488
00:20:37,533 --> 00:20:39,734
count at the end of the day, 
less dependent and more 

489
00:20:39,734 --> 00:20:40,366
less dependent and more 
influence is the name of the 

490
00:20:40,366 --> 00:20:41,533
influence is the name of the 
game strategic autonomy in 

491
00:20:41,533 --> 00:20:43,267
game strategic autonomy in 
action is the credo, which 

492
00:20:43,267 --> 00:20:45,299
action is the credo, which 
brings us together to help us 

493
00:20:45,299 --> 00:20:47,734
brings us together to help us 
define our shared destiny so 

494
00:20:47,734 --> 00:20:49,634
define our shared destiny so 
that we can have a positive 

495
00:20:49,634 --> 00:20:53,134
that we can have a positive 
impact in the world. Thank you. 

496
00:20:56,266 --> 00:20:58,234
Well, thank you. Thank you very 

497
00:20:58,234 --> 00:21:00,000
Well, thank you. Thank you very 
much uh mister president So 

498
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,466
much uh mister president So 
unfortunately we couldn’t have 

499
00:21:01,466 --> 00:21:02,733
unfortunately we couldn’t have 
an applause now after the 

500
00:21:02,733 --> 00:21:04,434
an applause now after the 
speech, which we usually like 

501
00:21:04,434 --> 00:21:07,134
speech, which we usually like 
like to have um uh when we do 

502
00:21:07,134 --> 00:21:08,466
like to have um uh when we do 
events and it was a real 

503
00:21:08,466 --> 00:21:09,667
events and it was a real 
audience. But now we only have 

504
00:21:09,667 --> 00:21:11,333
audience. But now we only have 
an online audience so we look 

505
00:21:11,333 --> 00:21:14,433
an online audience so we look 
forward to getting the applause 

506
00:21:14,433 --> 00:21:16,333
forward to getting the applause 
via via various uh social 

507
00:21:16,333 --> 00:21:18,700
via via various uh social 
media, but it was really a very 

508
00:21:18,700 --> 00:21:20,299
media, but it was really a very 
inspiring speech that covers a 

509
00:21:20,299 --> 00:21:22,933
inspiring speech that covers a 
lot of ground and um uh we have 

510
00:21:22,933 --> 00:21:24,567
lot of ground and um uh we have 
to uh try to unpack perhaps 

511
00:21:24,567 --> 00:21:26,699
to uh try to unpack perhaps 
some of the points you made for 

512
00:21:26,699 --> 00:21:28,800
some of the points you made for 
me. I think perhaps one of the 

513
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,600
me. I think perhaps one of the 
most striking. Uh points that 

514
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,900
most striking. Uh points that 
you made um and I would like 

515
00:21:33,900 --> 00:21:35,834
you made um and I would like 
you to explain and the last a 

516
00:21:35,834 --> 00:21:37,699
you to explain and the last a 
bit more on that point was 

517
00:21:37,699 --> 00:21:38,733
bit more on that point was 
about the decision-making 

518
00:21:38,733 --> 00:21:39,866
about the decision-making 
process um in the European 

519
00:21:39,866 --> 00:21:41,799
process um in the European 
Council, you’re very much 

520
00:21:41,799 --> 00:21:43,967
Council, you’re very much 
defended um the fact that um 

521
00:21:43,967 --> 00:21:46,400
defended um the fact that um 
you anonymity helps us to carry 

522
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,867
you anonymity helps us to carry 
everyone along and uh basically 

523
00:21:48,867 --> 00:21:50,500
everyone along and uh basically 
pull all countries when all 

524
00:21:50,500 --> 00:21:52,767
pull all countries when all 
countries fall on the same 

525
00:21:52,767 --> 00:21:53,900
countries fall on the same 
string all together, then we 

526
00:21:53,900 --> 00:21:55,867
string all together, then we 
are strong, then we come with a 

527
00:21:55,867 --> 00:21:57,500
are strong, then we come with a 
unified position, then we are 

528
00:21:57,500 --> 00:22:01,867
unified position, then we are 
all together um in. 

529
00:22:32,834 --> 00:22:36,401
Tankers will definitely think 

530
00:22:36,401 --> 00:22:37,799
Tankers will definitely think 
well at some stage um as we are 

531
00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:39,434
well at some stage um as we are 
progressing with political 

532
00:22:39,434 --> 00:22:41,033
progressing with political 
unity as we have more debates 

533
00:22:41,033 --> 00:22:42,434
unity as we have more debates 
among ourselves, we have to 

534
00:22:42,434 --> 00:22:44,333
among ourselves, we have to 
also come to a point where you 

535
00:22:44,333 --> 00:22:45,700
also come to a point where you 
know we take decisions by 

536
00:22:45,700 --> 00:22:48,333
know we take decisions by 
majority and just by unanimity. 

537
00:22:48,333 --> 00:22:50,301
majority and just by unanimity. 
No. no, I think there’s uh an 

538
00:22:50,301 --> 00:22:52,433
No. no, I think there’s uh an 
important strategy. It’s not 

539
00:22:52,433 --> 00:22:53,799
important strategy. It’s not 
easy to to have the the final 

540
00:22:53,799 --> 00:22:56,367
easy to to have the the final 
answer, but uh I have the 

541
00:22:56,367 --> 00:22:58,200
answer, but uh I have the 
impression it’s uh very often 

542
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,867
impression it’s uh very often 
if we work more together uh 

543
00:23:00,867 --> 00:23:03,400
if we work more together uh 
before the Europe. So, in order 

544
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,967
before the Europe. So, in order 
to try to prepare and the 

545
00:23:05,967 --> 00:23:07,800
to try to prepare and the 
strategic level uh debate, it’s 

546
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,700
strategic level uh debate, it’s 
possible with the unanimity to 

547
00:23:09,700 --> 00:23:12,733
possible with the unanimity to 
take decisions and of course 

548
00:23:12,733 --> 00:23:14,299
take decisions and of course 
unanimity. it means sometimes a 

549
00:23:14,299 --> 00:23:15,534
unanimity. it means sometimes a 
feeling of frustration because 

550
00:23:15,534 --> 00:23:17,799
feeling of frustration because 
it means that we need sometimes 

551
00:23:17,799 --> 00:23:19,867
it means that we need sometimes 
more time in order to be able 

552
00:23:19,867 --> 00:23:21,800
more time in order to be able 
to decide together. but I think 

553
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,333
to decide together. but I think 
the unanimity is also the 

554
00:23:23,333 --> 00:23:25,767
the unanimity is also the 
guarantee for all the men uh to 

555
00:23:25,767 --> 00:23:27,767
guarantee for all the men uh to 
be involved in the process to 

556
00:23:27,767 --> 00:23:30,000
be involved in the process to 
be involved in the European 

557
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,534
be involved in the European 
project and my concern would 

558
00:23:31,534 --> 00:23:34,733
project and my concern would 
be. We sell it to anonymity if 

559
00:23:34,733 --> 00:23:37,434
be. We sell it to anonymity if 
we would decide to abandon this 

560
00:23:37,434 --> 00:23:39,866
we would decide to abandon this 
principle of anonymity, I don’t 

561
00:23:39,866 --> 00:23:40,334
principle of anonymity, I don’t 
exclude the feeling the 

562
00:23:40,334 --> 00:23:41,966
exclude the feeling the 
impression of some member 

563
00:23:41,966 --> 00:23:44,200
impression of some member 
states that they are not 

564
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,200
states that they are not 
important to uh in the European 

565
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,267
important to uh in the European 
process and maybe it can it can 

566
00:23:48,267 --> 00:23:52,500
process and maybe it can it can 
it can uh uh lead to some 

567
00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:54,700
it can uh uh lead to some 
negative effects? I don’t have 

568
00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:56,467
negative effects? I don’t have 
a final answer. I agree that we 

569
00:23:56,467 --> 00:23:58,834
a final answer. I agree that we 
need to be able to react more 

570
00:23:58,834 --> 00:23:59,966
need to be able to react more 
quickly, but maybe there are 

571
00:23:59,966 --> 00:24:04,066
quickly, but maybe there are 
some other tools that you. 

572
00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:20,300
to eh have a coming äh to have 

573
00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:22,766
to eh have a coming äh to have 
a coming eh proshed to tater 

574
00:24:22,766 --> 00:24:24,567
a coming eh proshed to tater 
toman eh desision all todell 

575
00:24:24,567 --> 00:24:26,633
toman eh desision all todell 
are member that the fuman to do 

576
00:24:26,633 --> 00:24:28,633
are member that the fuman to do 
problemly, for mine of servers, 

577
00:24:28,633 --> 00:24:30,867
problemly, for mine of servers, 
die Impression Wass, about 

578
00:24:30,867 --> 00:24:33,933
die Impression Wass, about 
China äh die EU der Membersy, 

579
00:24:33,933 --> 00:24:34,667
China äh die EU der Membersy, 
die Don’t for Low the Simmer 

580
00:24:34,667 --> 00:24:36,400
die Don’t for Low the Simmer 
Pruach and win we to to 

581
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,867
Pruach and win we to to 
Decision to do more into the 

582
00:24:37,867 --> 00:24:39,900
Decision to do more into the 
substance we observed that it 

583
00:24:39,900 --> 00:24:41,633
substance we observed that it 
was possible because we were a 

584
00:24:41,633 --> 00:24:43,967
was possible because we were a 
lot in the preparation to have 

585
00:24:43,967 --> 00:24:45,867
lot in the preparation to have 
a criminal approach and 

586
00:24:45,867 --> 00:24:47,799
a criminal approach and 
observed for example, uh the 

587
00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:49,534
observed for example, uh the 
last uh the last days it’s the 

588
00:24:49,534 --> 00:24:51,800
last uh the last days it’s the 
level of the assembly of the UN 

589
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,434
level of the assembly of the UN 
it all the members states they 

590
00:24:53,434 --> 00:24:55,134
it all the members states they 
have. It’s pressed uh the same 

591
00:24:55,134 --> 00:24:57,867
have. It’s pressed uh the same 
approach about the future 

592
00:24:57,867 --> 00:25:00,700
approach about the future 
relationship with China. China, 

593
00:25:00,700 --> 00:25:02,400
relationship with China. China, 
Of course a very important 

594
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,634
Of course a very important 
topic you mentioned um also in 

595
00:25:04,634 --> 00:25:06,367
topic you mentioned um also in 
your speech um the uh very 

596
00:25:06,367 --> 00:25:09,067
your speech um the uh very 
important summit um a few weeks 

597
00:25:09,067 --> 00:25:10,467
important summit um a few weeks 
ago where you very much 

598
00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:12,000
ago where you very much 
emphasized the climate issues 

599
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,800
emphasized the climate issues 
but also human rights rights 

600
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,033
but also human rights rights 
issues and when it comes to the 

601
00:25:16,033 --> 00:25:19,733
issues and when it comes to the 
climate issue uh your speech um 

602
00:25:19,733 --> 00:25:21,233
climate issue uh your speech um 
highlights that uh you 

603
00:25:21,233 --> 00:25:23,167
highlights that uh you 
attribute some of the 

604
00:25:23,167 --> 00:25:23,966
attribute some of the 
announcement that China made 

605
00:25:23,966 --> 00:25:27,966
announcement that China made 
for it’s 2016 um targets um uh 

606
00:25:27,966 --> 00:25:30,666
for it’s 2016 um targets um uh 
two um the clear you position. 

607
00:25:30,666 --> 00:25:32,000
two um the clear you position. 
so can you just uh give us a 

608
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,500
so can you just uh give us a 
bit more of a flavor of uh you 

609
00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:37,900
bit more of a flavor of uh you 
know. Was really the debate and 

610
00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:39,034
know. Was really the debate and 
on the climate front. What is 

611
00:25:39,034 --> 00:25:40,867
on the climate front. What is 
it really that you demand it 

612
00:25:40,867 --> 00:25:43,400
it really that you demand it 
from China and what was the the 

613
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,700
from China and what was the the 
quick? I mean what was 

614
00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:47,066
quick? I mean what was 
expected. Also from China. I 

615
00:25:47,066 --> 00:25:47,966
expected. Also from China. I 
mean we all committed to apply 

616
00:25:47,966 --> 00:25:49,801
mean we all committed to apply 
it to fulfilling Paris, but 

617
00:25:49,801 --> 00:25:51,367
it to fulfilling Paris, but 
what was it that we achieved 

618
00:25:51,367 --> 00:25:52,767
what was it that we achieved 
really from the European Union 

619
00:25:52,767 --> 00:25:56,234
really from the European Union 
Point of view I uh I try not to 

620
00:25:56,234 --> 00:25:58,767
Point of view I uh I try not to 
be naive. uh I don’t the rest 

621
00:25:58,767 --> 00:26:00,566
be naive. uh I don’t the rest 
or how it will be a difficult 

622
00:26:00,566 --> 00:26:02,533
or how it will be a difficult 
in the next year to convince 

623
00:26:02,533 --> 00:26:05,767
in the next year to convince 
some partners in the world. 

624
00:26:05,767 --> 00:26:08,300
some partners in the world. 
Shining it to be totally 

625
00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:09,899
Shining it to be totally 
committed in order to in order 

626
00:26:09,899 --> 00:26:11,800
committed in order to in order 
to uh to implement what we have 

627
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,267
to uh to implement what we have 
decided in Paris, but the fact 

628
00:26:14,267 --> 00:26:16,767
decided in Paris, but the fact 
a few days ago, the China 

629
00:26:16,767 --> 00:26:18,000
a few days ago, the China 
announced the decision uh come 

630
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,433
announced the decision uh come 
with the twenty by 2060. It’s a 

631
00:26:20,433 --> 00:26:22,099
with the twenty by 2060. It’s a 
it’s a good step in the right 

632
00:26:22,099 --> 00:26:23,533
it’s a good step in the right 
direction and and who can 

633
00:26:23,533 --> 00:26:25,867
direction and and who can 
imagine that uh we felt the 

634
00:26:25,867 --> 00:26:28,933
imagine that uh we felt the 
role of the you It has been 

635
00:26:28,933 --> 00:26:30,267
role of the you It has been 
possible. it was possible for 

636
00:26:30,267 --> 00:26:32,367
possible. it was possible for 
China to take uh such a such a 

637
00:26:32,367 --> 00:26:33,500
China to take uh such a such a 
decision, and it’s one of the 

638
00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:36,500
decision, and it’s one of the 
it’s. 

639
00:27:07,467 --> 00:27:11,201
De fait de euh, Claam Change 

640
00:27:11,201 --> 00:27:13,800
De fait de euh, Claam Change 
Challenge äh to diverlop äh 

641
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,667
Challenge äh to diverlop äh 
innovativ Technologies, I think 

642
00:27:15,667 --> 00:27:19,966
innovativ Technologies, I think 
eh that it’s it’s mix us twenty 

643
00:27:19,966 --> 00:27:21,967
eh that it’s it’s mix us twenty 
power in the world and wish 

644
00:27:21,967 --> 00:27:23,767
power in the world and wish 
china, eh over goal, was wir we 

645
00:27:23,767 --> 00:27:25,634
china, eh over goal, was wir we 
clean, was in port and first to 

646
00:27:25,634 --> 00:27:27,634
clean, was in port and first to 
turn wincina first that two one 

647
00:27:27,634 --> 00:27:29,833
turn wincina first that two one 
two in Dillgewese China and 

648
00:27:29,833 --> 00:27:30,400
two in Dillgewese China and 
Suren the twee one to 

649
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:31,733
Suren the twee one to 
rebellance, Irlation sheep and 

650
00:27:31,733 --> 00:27:34,267
rebellance, Irlation sheep and 
we john see dot it all so äh 

651
00:27:34,267 --> 00:27:37,067
we john see dot it all so äh 
for for China, to be totaly 

652
00:27:37,067 --> 00:27:38,999
for for China, to be totaly 
come it to be moto meet it äh 

653
00:27:38,999 --> 00:27:42,300
come it to be moto meet it äh 
to to reach The drawers with 

654
00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:46,667
to to reach The drawers with 
the side in Paris. Well, let’s 

655
00:27:46,667 --> 00:27:48,267
the side in Paris. Well, let’s 
spend a bit more time on China 

656
00:27:48,267 --> 00:27:49,733
spend a bit more time on China 
because it’s such an important 

657
00:27:49,733 --> 00:27:52,333
because it’s such an important 
topic uh before before moving 

658
00:27:52,333 --> 00:27:54,900
topic uh before before moving 
on um China um one of the 

659
00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:57,733
on um China um one of the 
central um aims for a long time 

660
00:27:57,733 --> 00:27:59,299
central um aims for a long time 
has been to come to an 

661
00:27:59,299 --> 00:28:02,700
has been to come to an 
agreement on on an investment 

662
00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:04,333
agreement on on an investment 
relations so reaching a 

663
00:28:04,333 --> 00:28:05,467
relations so reaching a 
bilateral investment treaty 

664
00:28:05,467 --> 00:28:07,334
bilateral investment treaty 
that looks very far away at the 

665
00:28:07,334 --> 00:28:10,933
that looks very far away at the 
stage. Um the presidency wanted 

666
00:28:10,933 --> 00:28:13,334
stage. Um the presidency wanted 
to seal the deal uh during 

667
00:28:13,334 --> 00:28:14,867
to seal the deal uh during 
during the presidency um I 

668
00:28:14,867 --> 00:28:16,234
during the presidency um I 
think it has become clear that 

669
00:28:16,234 --> 00:28:17,801
think it has become clear that 
it will be very difficult. why 

670
00:28:17,801 --> 00:28:18,933
it will be very difficult. why 
well from a European point of 

671
00:28:18,933 --> 00:28:24,234
well from a European point of 
view because. Chyna um does not 

672
00:28:24,234 --> 00:28:26,500
view because. Chyna um does not 
allow a reciprocity does not 

673
00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:28,767
allow a reciprocity does not 
give the same degree of market 

674
00:28:28,767 --> 00:28:30,234
give the same degree of market 
access has a very strong role 

675
00:28:30,234 --> 00:28:31,667
access has a very strong role 
of the state in the economy, 

676
00:28:31,667 --> 00:28:32,900
of the state in the economy, 
which distorts competition, 

677
00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:35,266
which distorts competition, 
which makes it very difficult 

678
00:28:35,266 --> 00:28:36,934
which makes it very difficult 
uh to uh safeguard the level 

679
00:28:36,934 --> 00:28:38,600
uh to uh safeguard the level 
playing field for European 

680
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,700
playing field for European 
companies Now, that was a 

681
00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:43,299
companies Now, that was a 
strong point um with uh 

682
00:28:43,299 --> 00:28:44,767
strong point um with uh 
negotiating point of the EU for 

683
00:28:44,767 --> 00:28:46,334
negotiating point of the EU for 
a very long time of course, um 

684
00:28:46,334 --> 00:28:48,400
a very long time of course, um 
now you say we are more united 

685
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,167
now you say we are more united 
in our position on that. But 

686
00:28:51,167 --> 00:28:53,100
in our position on that. But 
still, China didn’t seem to 

687
00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:54,234
still, China didn’t seem to 
move much um or do I 

688
00:28:54,234 --> 00:28:55,933
move much um or do I 
misinterpret this. I mean, can 

689
00:28:55,933 --> 00:28:58,234
misinterpret this. I mean, can 
you how far can we push China 

690
00:28:58,234 --> 00:28:59,967
you how far can we push China 
on this point really of 

691
00:28:59,967 --> 00:29:02,600
on this point really of 
reciprocity and uh and market 

692
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:03,900
reciprocity and uh and market 
access and if we can’t push 

693
00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:06,500
access and if we can’t push 
them what do we do? I mean do 

694
00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:08,767
them what do we do? I mean do 
we reduce our strategic 

695
00:29:08,767 --> 00:29:09,834
we reduce our strategic 
relationship with China? Uh 

696
00:29:09,834 --> 00:29:11,333
relationship with China? Uh 
it’s it’s it’s very clear that 

697
00:29:11,333 --> 00:29:12,800
it’s it’s it’s very clear that 
uh we are working very hard 

698
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,066
uh we are working very hard 
with the commission and also 

699
00:29:14,066 --> 00:29:15,933
with the commission and also 
with the member states in order 

700
00:29:15,933 --> 00:29:17,633
with the member states in order 
to to make to make progress and 

701
00:29:17,633 --> 00:29:19,900
to to make to make progress and 
uh and we we hope that. 

702
00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:22,267
uh and we we hope that. 
Possible by of the year of this 

703
00:29:22,267 --> 00:29:24,801
Possible by of the year of this 
year uh to wish an agreement on 

704
00:29:24,801 --> 00:29:26,133
year uh to wish an agreement on 
the uh investments agreement 

705
00:29:26,133 --> 00:29:28,000
the uh investments agreement 
and a certain that it will be 

706
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,166
and a certain that it will be 
the case, but we will work very 

707
00:29:29,166 --> 00:29:31,201
the case, but we will work very 
hard because we think it’s uh 

708
00:29:31,201 --> 00:29:32,834
hard because we think it’s uh 
it’s a it’s a priority but uh 

709
00:29:32,834 --> 00:29:34,433
it’s a it’s a priority but uh 
when we we prepare we the 

710
00:29:34,433 --> 00:29:36,900
when we we prepare we the 
members states this uh last 

711
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:39,234
members states this uh last 
virtual summit to China if you 

712
00:29:39,234 --> 00:29:40,833
virtual summit to China if you 
a few weeks ago we we felt that 

713
00:29:40,833 --> 00:29:42,700
a few weeks ago we we felt that 
it was very important for all 

714
00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:44,000
it was very important for all 
the members to be certain that 

715
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,133
the members to be certain that 
the case of women we need to 

716
00:29:47,133 --> 00:29:48,300
the case of women we need to 
make more progress on the level 

717
00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:50,933
make more progress on the level 
of living. And we see 

718
00:29:50,933 --> 00:29:53,300
of living. And we see 
prosperity and there is no 

719
00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:55,867
prosperity and there is no 
doubt uh we are in favor of a 

720
00:29:55,867 --> 00:29:58,400
doubt uh we are in favor of a 
free economy where we are 

721
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,234
free economy where we are 
totally uh to meet it and 

722
00:30:01,234 --> 00:30:04,900
totally uh to meet it and 
engaged uh for an open roles 

723
00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:07,767
engaged uh for an open roles 
for for open societies and but 

724
00:30:07,767 --> 00:30:09,100
for for open societies and but 
at the same time, the question 

725
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:11,933
at the same time, the question 
is how is it possible to make 

726
00:30:11,933 --> 00:30:14,333
is how is it possible to make 
more progress on the level of 

727
00:30:14,333 --> 00:30:15,867
more progress on the level of 
fairness, which is possible to 

728
00:30:15,867 --> 00:30:17,234
fairness, which is possible to 
have a fairer relationship not 

729
00:30:17,234 --> 00:30:20,000
have a fairer relationship not 
only with China, but certainly 

730
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,466
only with China, but certainly 
with China. With this, many 

731
00:30:23,466 --> 00:30:25,500
with China. With this, many 
topics uh be I still wanna 

732
00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:26,799
topics uh be I still wanna 
touch on uh but let me move 

733
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:29,833
touch on uh but let me move 
preps to um to be to quickly to 

734
00:30:29,833 --> 00:30:31,533
preps to um to be to quickly to 
this issue of anonymity in the 

735
00:30:31,533 --> 00:30:33,867
this issue of anonymity in the 
context of the neighborhood. um 

736
00:30:33,867 --> 00:30:37,867
context of the neighborhood. um 
uh you mentioned bells, you 

737
00:30:37,867 --> 00:30:41,166
uh you mentioned bells, you 
mentioned also um uh the 

738
00:30:41,166 --> 00:30:43,234
mentioned also um uh the 
Mediterranean um and our 

739
00:30:43,234 --> 00:30:45,533
Mediterranean um and our 
difficulties to come to clear 

740
00:30:45,533 --> 00:30:48,667
difficulties to come to clear 
and strong positions as regards 

741
00:30:48,667 --> 00:30:51,233
and strong positions as regards 
Russia um on Russia we have. 

742
00:30:51,233 --> 00:30:53,699
Russia um on Russia we have. 
For quite some time um 

743
00:30:53,699 --> 00:30:55,434
For quite some time um 
unanimous agreement but on 

744
00:30:55,434 --> 00:30:57,867
unanimous agreement but on 
Bella’s um the debate was is 

745
00:30:57,867 --> 00:31:00,267
Bella’s um the debate was is 
very long and very um difficult 

746
00:31:00,267 --> 00:31:01,967
very long and very um difficult 
and some countries I believe 

747
00:31:01,967 --> 00:31:04,900
and some countries I believe 
Cyprus uh still ne and want to 

748
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:08,800
Cyprus uh still ne and want to 
have um you know some uh some 

749
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,234
have um you know some uh some 
uh further concessions um as 

750
00:31:11,234 --> 00:31:12,733
uh further concessions um as 
regards as regards to relations 

751
00:31:12,733 --> 00:31:15,401
regards as regards to relations 
with Turkey so it’s you 

752
00:31:15,401 --> 00:31:17,767
with Turkey so it’s you 
anonymity preps, not after all 

753
00:31:17,767 --> 00:31:19,534
anonymity preps, not after all 
slowing us down too much on 

754
00:31:19,534 --> 00:31:21,933
slowing us down too much on 
some uh I recognized that 

755
00:31:21,933 --> 00:31:24,400
some uh I recognized that 
sometimes in any uh it’s uh it. 

756
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,067
sometimes in any uh it’s uh it. 
it means that it takes more 

757
00:31:25,067 --> 00:31:29,400
it means that it takes more 
time you know to decide but. 

758
00:32:01,767 --> 00:32:05,666
Ne Of the European Council by 

759
00:32:05,666 --> 00:32:08,033
Ne Of the European Council by 
the end of the week and I 

760
00:32:08,033 --> 00:32:10,401
the end of the week and I 
expect and I hope that we will 

761
00:32:10,401 --> 00:32:12,367
expect and I hope that we will 
implement what we have decided 

762
00:32:12,367 --> 00:32:16,000
implement what we have decided 
in uh in in August. 

763
00:32:16,266 --> 00:32:17,799
So you made everystrong point 

764
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:19,500
So you made everystrong point 
that we have release restatic 

765
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:22,634
that we have release restatic 
ähm Golds ähm that we want to 

766
00:32:22,634 --> 00:32:25,333
ähm Golds ähm that we want to 
chief with ähm Utonomy 

767
00:32:25,333 --> 00:32:27,200
chief with ähm Utonomy 
Strategic, so aus Autornomavich 

768
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,900
Strategic, so aus Autornomavich 
ist intristing, by the way 

769
00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:30,834
ist intristing, by the way 
expression it was für Nouts 

770
00:32:30,834 --> 00:32:32,767
expression it was für Nouts 
autonom ats in Interesting, 

771
00:32:32,767 --> 00:32:34,833
autonom ats in Interesting, 
change in in the world and 

772
00:32:34,833 --> 00:32:36,799
change in in the world and 
perpsye one asay wird on the at 

773
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:38,766
perpsye one asay wird on the at 
because ehm the German Finance 

774
00:32:38,766 --> 00:32:40,234
because ehm the German Finance 
Minister for example continueds 

775
00:32:40,234 --> 00:32:42,700
Minister for example continueds 
to use the world soveranty ehm 

776
00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:44,934
to use the world soveranty ehm 
eh you use autonomy eh which I 

777
00:32:44,934 --> 00:32:47,201
eh you use autonomy eh which I 
I sing has a quited different 

778
00:32:47,201 --> 00:32:48,000
I sing has a quited different 
connutation then than 

779
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,900
connutation then than 
souveranty. Ähm but So, Pepsi 

780
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:53,299
souveranty. Ähm but So, Pepsi 
wanna say one word on this uh 

781
00:32:53,299 --> 00:32:55,067
wanna say one word on this uh 
um this uh linguistic 

782
00:32:55,067 --> 00:32:57,900
um this uh linguistic 
difference um but but then I uh 

783
00:32:57,900 --> 00:32:59,500
difference um but but then I uh 
you really highlights three 

784
00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:01,900
you really highlights three 
points stability um diffusion 

785
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:03,567
points stability um diffusion 
of our promotion of our 

786
00:33:03,567 --> 00:33:05,767
of our promotion of our 
standards and promotion of our 

787
00:33:05,767 --> 00:33:07,367
standards and promotion of our 
values and I was wondering if 

788
00:33:07,367 --> 00:33:09,233
values and I was wondering if 
you would rank those three. 

789
00:33:09,233 --> 00:33:11,033
you would rank those three. 
we’ll be most successful of 

790
00:33:11,033 --> 00:33:12,566
we’ll be most successful of 
those three and we are really 

791
00:33:12,566 --> 00:33:14,199
those three and we are really 
successful and we most 

792
00:33:14,199 --> 00:33:15,467
successful and we most 
successful in stability most 

793
00:33:15,467 --> 00:33:17,833
successful in stability most 
successful in standards are 

794
00:33:17,833 --> 00:33:21,267
successful in standards are 
most successful. 

795
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:51,933
No, it’s not easy. It’s so it’s 

796
00:33:51,933 --> 00:33:54,099
No, it’s not easy. It’s so it’s 
a difficult. It’s a difficult 

797
00:33:54,099 --> 00:33:56,567
a difficult. It’s a difficult 
challenge and maybe one word 

798
00:33:56,567 --> 00:34:00,800
challenge and maybe one word 
about uh the the the 

799
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,834
about uh the the the 
sovereignty and I would like to 

800
00:34:02,834 --> 00:34:05,100
sovereignty and I would like to 
repeat that uh I understand 

801
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:07,666
repeat that uh I understand 
very well uh that’s the meaning 

802
00:34:07,666 --> 00:34:10,099
very well uh that’s the meaning 
of the words uh can be 

803
00:34:10,099 --> 00:34:11,633
of the words uh can be 
different in the different 

804
00:34:11,633 --> 00:34:13,899
different in the different 
European countries. It’s a very 

805
00:34:13,899 --> 00:34:16,233
European countries. It’s a very 
important when we we start uh 

806
00:34:16,233 --> 00:34:18,433
important when we we start uh 
this important political debate 

807
00:34:18,433 --> 00:34:21,899
this important political debate 
that uh we we avoid having 

808
00:34:21,899 --> 00:34:22,533
that uh we we avoid having 
misunderstandings between us 

809
00:34:22,533 --> 00:34:23,966
misunderstandings between us 
twice. That’s why it’s so 

810
00:34:23,966 --> 00:34:28,367
twice. That’s why it’s so 
important. To more on the 

811
00:34:28,367 --> 00:34:30,300
important. To more on the 
substance and to be less 

812
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:32,700
substance and to be less 
obsessed by the question of uh 

813
00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:33,899
obsessed by the question of uh 
of the world that we that we 

814
00:34:33,899 --> 00:34:36,499
of the world that we that we 
use in any case, my impression 

815
00:34:36,499 --> 00:34:38,099
use in any case, my impression 
is we need and we all agree on 

816
00:34:38,099 --> 00:34:40,600
is we need and we all agree on 
that we need to work very hard 

817
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,300
that we need to work very hard 
in the future in order to to be 

818
00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:44,966
in the future in order to to be 
less dependent and to develop 

819
00:34:44,966 --> 00:34:48,466
less dependent and to develop 
to open international 

820
00:34:48,466 --> 00:34:52,000
to open international 
relationships. but with 

821
00:34:52,066 --> 00:34:53,067
more fairness in that situation 

822
00:34:53,067 --> 00:34:55,834
more fairness in that situation 
so when we. About the issue of 

823
00:34:55,834 --> 00:34:58,234
so when we. About the issue of 
stability um you mentioned um 

824
00:34:58,234 --> 00:35:00,066
stability um you mentioned um 
uh security as one dimension 

825
00:35:00,066 --> 00:35:03,234
uh security as one dimension 
and you mentioned uh very 

826
00:35:03,234 --> 00:35:07,499
and you mentioned uh very 
prominently um supply chains uh 

827
00:35:07,499 --> 00:35:08,800
prominently um supply chains uh 
medical production um micro 

828
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,767
medical production um micro 
processors and reducing our 

829
00:35:11,767 --> 00:35:13,967
processors and reducing our 
dependency on others um at the 

830
00:35:13,967 --> 00:35:15,367
dependency on others um at the 
same time you start off your 

831
00:35:15,367 --> 00:35:18,000
same time you start off your 
saying autonomy is not 

832
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,567
saying autonomy is not 
protectionism and um I think 

833
00:35:19,567 --> 00:35:22,199
protectionism and um I think 
this is of course a very 

834
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:23,433
this is of course a very 
difficult debate and um one of 

835
00:35:23,433 --> 00:35:25,900
difficult debate and um one of 
the first things. I get to ask 

836
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:27,034
the first things. I get to ask 
whenever people ask me about 

837
00:35:27,034 --> 00:35:29,467
whenever people ask me about 
the the topic autonomy. They 

838
00:35:29,467 --> 00:35:31,133
the the topic autonomy. They 
ask me why, but doesn’t that 

839
00:35:31,133 --> 00:35:33,099
ask me why, but doesn’t that 
mean um basically 

840
00:35:33,099 --> 00:35:34,367
mean um basically 
protectionism. it doesn’t mean 

841
00:35:34,367 --> 00:35:35,733
protectionism. it doesn’t mean 
we need to you want to protect 

842
00:35:35,733 --> 00:35:37,567
we need to you want to protect 
your own industry at the 

843
00:35:37,567 --> 00:35:38,933
your own industry at the 
expense of foreign uh 

844
00:35:38,933 --> 00:35:40,733
expense of foreign uh 
industries, and let’s just take 

845
00:35:40,733 --> 00:35:43,000
industries, and let’s just take 
the example of medical supply. 

846
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,667
the example of medical supply. 
Um uh Europe is one of the 

847
00:35:45,667 --> 00:35:47,867
Um uh Europe is one of the 
world’s leaders um in uh in 

848
00:35:47,867 --> 00:35:50,666
world’s leaders um in uh in 
medical um exports um we export 

849
00:35:50,666 --> 00:35:53,000
medical um exports um we export 
more high tech goods than we 

850
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,267
more high tech goods than we 
input um. 

851
00:36:31,233 --> 00:36:33,867
It would be a big mistake if 

852
00:36:33,867 --> 00:36:37,633
It would be a big mistake if 
you would uh uh opened the way 

853
00:36:37,633 --> 00:36:39,300
you would uh uh opened the way 
for more protection is exactly 

854
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:41,833
for more protection is exactly 
uh the the contrary we we need 

855
00:36:41,833 --> 00:36:43,801
uh the the contrary we we need 
uh an open economy uh no 

856
00:36:43,801 --> 00:36:45,767
uh an open economy uh no 
hesitation and no doubt on it 

857
00:36:45,767 --> 00:36:47,300
hesitation and no doubt on it 
but today, what’s the current 

858
00:36:47,300 --> 00:36:49,801
but today, what’s the current 
situation in many in many 

859
00:36:49,801 --> 00:36:52,933
situation in many in many 
fields? we open our beach uh 

860
00:36:52,933 --> 00:36:55,200
fields? we open our beach uh 
single market uh for many 

861
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:55,934
single market uh for many 
companies coming in from the 

862
00:36:55,934 --> 00:36:57,966
companies coming in from the 
world, not necessarily the same 

863
00:36:57,966 --> 00:36:59,834
world, not necessarily the same 
stand out in 2000 with our 

864
00:36:59,834 --> 00:37:01,867
stand out in 2000 with our 
businesses with our uh Trump uh 

865
00:37:01,867 --> 00:37:04,600
businesses with our uh Trump uh 
with distress. Me to do about 

866
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:05,934
with distress. Me to do about 
the situation with China is 

867
00:37:05,934 --> 00:37:08,367
the situation with China is 
very good example when I meet 

868
00:37:08,367 --> 00:37:11,366
very good example when I meet 
uh European businesses uh the 

869
00:37:11,366 --> 00:37:16,467
uh European businesses uh the 
the the tell us a lot many uh 

870
00:37:16,467 --> 00:37:19,401
the the tell us a lot many uh 
pre pregnancy, which 

871
00:37:19,401 --> 00:37:22,834
pre pregnancy, which 
demonstrates that. 

872
00:37:25,233 --> 00:37:27,967
So we need uh between the 

873
00:37:27,967 --> 00:37:30,800
So we need uh between the 
member states very serious 

874
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,000
member states very serious 
debate on that in order to 

875
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,134
debate on that in order to 
avoid. 

876
00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:38,700
It would be it would be crazy 

877
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:41,399
It would be it would be crazy 
from the European uh but at the 

878
00:37:41,399 --> 00:37:44,234
from the European uh but at the 
same time I think we need to to 

879
00:37:44,234 --> 00:37:45,866
same time I think we need to to 
rebalance our relationships, 

880
00:37:45,866 --> 00:37:48,867
rebalance our relationships, 
especially at the level with uh 

881
00:37:48,867 --> 00:37:51,700
especially at the level with uh 
some regions in the world. You 

882
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:54,400
some regions in the world. You 
mentioned trades so we have a 

883
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,267
mentioned trades so we have a 
question from the audience um 

884
00:37:55,267 --> 00:37:57,333
question from the audience um 
exactly about the about trade. 

885
00:37:57,333 --> 00:37:59,267
exactly about the about trade. 
um the person is asking us. How 

886
00:37:59,267 --> 00:38:02,566
um the person is asking us. How 
do you see a strategic autonomy 

887
00:38:02,566 --> 00:38:04,333
do you see a strategic autonomy 
developing in the area of trade 

888
00:38:04,333 --> 00:38:06,767
developing in the area of trade 
open strategic or autonomy? the 

889
00:38:06,767 --> 00:38:09,367
open strategic or autonomy? the 
three the three routes if we 

890
00:38:09,367 --> 00:38:10,734
three the three routes if we 
keep if we keep this the three 

891
00:38:10,734 --> 00:38:13,234
keep if we keep this the three 
would be important to us right 

892
00:38:13,234 --> 00:38:15,100
would be important to us right 
all three birds are important 

893
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:19,867
all three birds are important 
um uh um so um so let’s let’s 

894
00:38:19,867 --> 00:38:21,201
um uh um so um so let’s let’s 
uh still think a little bit 

895
00:38:21,201 --> 00:38:22,833
uh still think a little bit 
more about about the trade 

896
00:38:22,833 --> 00:38:27,500
more about about the trade 
issue. I mean the one of the. 

897
00:38:33,366 --> 00:38:34,267
We have a commission a 

898
00:38:34,267 --> 00:38:36,233
We have a commission a 
dedicated to it and the 

899
00:38:36,233 --> 00:38:37,466
dedicated to it and the 
commissioner can actually do 

900
00:38:37,466 --> 00:38:38,933
commissioner can actually do 
trade. It’s not just on based 

901
00:38:38,933 --> 00:38:40,433
trade. It’s not just on based 
on your immunity, but also 

902
00:38:40,433 --> 00:38:44,234
on your immunity, but also 
based on Q and B. um how do you 

903
00:38:44,234 --> 00:38:47,699
based on Q and B. um how do you 
see our trade relation with 

904
00:38:47,699 --> 00:38:49,766
see our trade relation with 
major trading partners, 

905
00:38:49,766 --> 00:38:51,801
major trading partners, 
especially the United States um 

906
00:38:51,801 --> 00:38:53,900
especially the United States um 
developing um in the coming 

907
00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:56,333
developing um in the coming 
years, First of all, I think we 

908
00:38:56,333 --> 00:38:58,866
years, First of all, I think we 
need to continue to be very 

909
00:38:58,866 --> 00:39:00,533
need to continue to be very 
committed to um uh the world 

910
00:39:00,533 --> 00:39:02,000
committed to um uh the world 
with organization and we are 

911
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,466
with organization and we are 
working with uh important. So 

912
00:39:05,466 --> 00:39:06,867
working with uh important. So 
Japan, for example, but also 

913
00:39:06,867 --> 00:39:08,200
Japan, for example, but also 
with uh with others, you know 

914
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,967
with uh with others, you know 
to try to make some progress 

915
00:39:09,967 --> 00:39:12,467
to try to make some progress 
but at the same time we know 

916
00:39:12,467 --> 00:39:16,233
but at the same time we know 
that uh uh after uh the 

917
00:39:16,233 --> 00:39:17,633
that uh uh after uh the 
election in the United States, 

918
00:39:17,633 --> 00:39:18,666
election in the United States, 
we suppose that it will be 

919
00:39:18,666 --> 00:39:21,800
we suppose that it will be 
possible uh to to to to have uh 

920
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,834
possible uh to to to to have uh 
strong channel of dialogue with 

921
00:39:23,834 --> 00:39:24,667
strong channel of dialogue with 
the United States in order to 

922
00:39:24,667 --> 00:39:26,867
the United States in order to 
tackle those important topics. 

923
00:39:26,867 --> 00:39:29,334
tackle those important topics. 
My observation is very 

924
00:39:29,334 --> 00:39:30,867
My observation is very 
problematic, observed the last 

925
00:39:30,867 --> 00:39:32,333
problematic, observed the last 
uh the last month the last 2 

926
00:39:32,333 --> 00:39:36,467
uh the last month the last 2 
years. A choice uh in the 

927
00:39:36,467 --> 00:39:37,767
years. A choice uh in the 
United States without the 

928
00:39:37,767 --> 00:39:39,533
United States without the 
without the issue, which was 

929
00:39:39,533 --> 00:39:42,800
without the issue, which was 
not always friendly towards the 

930
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,500
not always friendly towards the 
European Union. Uh I hope we 

931
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:47,000
European Union. Uh I hope we 
will develop uh a group a 

932
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,267
will develop uh a group a 
positive channel of dialogue 

933
00:39:48,267 --> 00:39:50,200
positive channel of dialogue 
and of communication of the 

934
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,234
and of communication of the 
decisions we made we made some 

935
00:39:53,234 --> 00:39:55,300
decisions we made we made some 
small progress uh the last week 

936
00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:57,933
small progress uh the last week 
uh but of course it’s important 

937
00:39:57,933 --> 00:40:00,566
uh but of course it’s important 
to to develop a broader vision 

938
00:40:00,566 --> 00:40:02,367
to to develop a broader vision 
in order to hear it possible to 

939
00:40:02,367 --> 00:40:05,667
in order to hear it possible to 
to have. 

940
00:40:31,033 --> 00:40:35,933
aussi d’être euh, Repentant are 

941
00:40:35,933 --> 00:40:37,234
aussi d’être euh, Repentant are 
most of the time higher 

942
00:40:37,234 --> 00:40:39,266
most of the time higher 
standards in comparison with 

943
00:40:39,266 --> 00:40:42,933
standards in comparison with 
other regions in the world. 

944
00:40:43,299 --> 00:40:44,933
The United States, an important 

945
00:40:44,933 --> 00:40:47,800
The United States, an important 
ally um China, um a partner 

946
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,967
ally um China, um a partner 
with whom to engage uh but 

947
00:40:49,967 --> 00:40:51,299
with whom to engage uh but 
where do we stand in the 

948
00:40:51,299 --> 00:40:53,000
where do we stand in the 
conflict between China and the 

949
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,533
conflict between China and the 
United States because 

950
00:40:54,533 --> 00:40:55,900
United States because 
irrespective of the next 

951
00:40:55,900 --> 00:40:58,234
irrespective of the next 
president who’s going to be the 

952
00:40:58,234 --> 00:40:59,600
president who’s going to be the 
next president in the United 

953
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,367
next president in the United 
States? um the course that the 

954
00:41:02,367 --> 00:41:03,800
States? um the course that the 
United States has taken on 

955
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,400
United States has taken on 
China, the much tougher line be 

956
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,834
China, the much tougher line be 
on technology uh be it on uh uh 

957
00:41:09,834 --> 00:41:11,900
on technology uh be it on uh uh 
um uh market access issues on 

958
00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:14,699
um uh market access issues on 
many issues. I think that line. 

959
00:41:14,699 --> 00:41:17,300
many issues. I think that line. 
will Remain am Inthe United 

960
00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:18,634
will Remain am Inthe United 
States, will have avery tough 

961
00:41:18,634 --> 00:41:20,201
States, will have avery tough 
Lines, what what will weed to 

962
00:41:20,201 --> 00:41:22,266
Lines, what what will weed to 
Europeans will be have the 

963
00:41:22,266 --> 00:41:25,200
Europeans will be have the 
trues, really bevor online go 

964
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,966
trues, really bevor online go 
in marropin it’s clearity it to 

965
00:41:27,966 --> 00:41:30,434
in marropin it’s clearity it to 
be net exciteble force to to to 

966
00:41:30,434 --> 00:41:32,167
be net exciteble force to to to 
be curn a callatary vitteam of 

967
00:41:32,167 --> 00:41:34,267
be curn a callatary vitteam of 
the strenfred be two in China 

968
00:41:34,267 --> 00:41:37,100
the strenfred be two in China 
and äh United Stis it zwei we 

969
00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:39,200
and äh United Stis it zwei we 
need to to Identify, what’s 

970
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,100
need to to Identify, what’s 
aber on pass, what’s our one we 

971
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:44,333
aber on pass, what’s our one we 
and this what two we dead 

972
00:41:44,333 --> 00:41:45,967
and this what two we dead 
During the last uh virtual 

973
00:41:45,967 --> 00:41:49,867
During the last uh virtual 
summit with China, which played 

974
00:41:49,867 --> 00:41:51,733
summit with China, which played 
.1, we want to engage with 

975
00:41:51,733 --> 00:41:53,300
.1, we want to engage with 
China because China is an 

976
00:41:53,300 --> 00:41:54,800
China because China is an 
important actor in order to 

977
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,967
important actor in order to 
protect our climate change to 

978
00:41:55,967 --> 00:41:59,966
protect our climate change to 
the 2020 of 2019 uh to develop 

979
00:41:59,966 --> 00:42:01,801
the 2020 of 2019 uh to develop 
an approach more based on the 

980
00:42:01,801 --> 00:42:03,933
an approach more based on the 
on on that, for example, on the 

981
00:42:03,933 --> 00:42:06,000
on on that, for example, on the 
other hand on trade, uh I 

982
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,200
other hand on trade, uh I 
repeat it’s important for us to 

983
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,867
repeat it’s important for us to 
rebalance our relationship for 

984
00:42:09,867 --> 00:42:12,201
rebalance our relationship for 
more for more fairness for more 

985
00:42:12,201 --> 00:42:13,533
more for more fairness for more 
reciprocity for more level 

986
00:42:13,533 --> 00:42:16,634
reciprocity for more level 
playing field. And and I think 

987
00:42:16,634 --> 00:42:19,033
playing field. And and I think 
it would be it would be uh it 

988
00:42:19,033 --> 00:42:22,667
it would be it would be uh it 
would be a mistake if you would 

989
00:42:22,667 --> 00:42:24,834
would be a mistake if you would 
accept as European Union 

990
00:42:24,834 --> 00:42:27,000
accept as European Union 
address uh to to to follow uh 

991
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,167
address uh to to to follow uh 
the proposed by the United 

992
00:42:29,167 --> 00:42:31,900
the proposed by the United 
States, I don’t want to deer uh 

993
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:34,533
States, I don’t want to deer uh 
uh with China from China, we 

994
00:42:34,533 --> 00:42:35,900
uh with China from China, we 
think that it’s important to 

995
00:42:35,900 --> 00:42:37,801
think that it’s important to 
remain in engage with them. so 

996
00:42:37,801 --> 00:42:41,200
remain in engage with them. so 
that’s what we will do. 

997
00:43:10,266 --> 00:43:13,133
European firms um the United 

998
00:43:13,133 --> 00:43:14,800
European firms um the United 
States is starting to think 

999
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,201
States is starting to think 
about these issues and to act 

1000
00:43:17,201 --> 00:43:18,800
about these issues and to act 
in some spaces in the 

1001
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,000
in some spaces in the 
technology space when it comes 

1002
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,467
technology space when it comes 
to China. um so, for example, 

1003
00:43:22,467 --> 00:43:23,733
to China. um so, for example, 
it technologically companies 

1004
00:43:23,733 --> 00:43:27,633
it technologically companies 
that get targeted by um by US 

1005
00:43:27,633 --> 00:43:28,800
that get targeted by um by US 
authorities and you know 

1006
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,566
authorities and you know 
business with those technology 

1007
00:43:30,566 --> 00:43:31,933
business with those technology 
companies is getting 

1008
00:43:31,933 --> 00:43:33,567
companies is getting 
increasingly difficult. So what 

1009
00:43:33,567 --> 00:43:36,133
increasingly difficult. So what 
are the counter instruments? or 

1010
00:43:36,133 --> 00:43:38,167
are the counter instruments? or 
what are the the What is the 

1011
00:43:38,167 --> 00:43:38,967
what are the the What is the 
scope for us really to avoid 

1012
00:43:38,967 --> 00:43:42,233
scope for us really to avoid 
being pushed in that direction? 

1013
00:43:42,233 --> 00:43:46,266
being pushed in that direction? 
It We we we we we need to to to 

1014
00:43:46,266 --> 00:43:47,633
It We we we we we need to to to 
develop our own strategy 

1015
00:43:47,633 --> 00:43:49,767
develop our own strategy 
because we have our own goals. 

1016
00:43:49,767 --> 00:43:51,866
because we have our own goals. 
take for example the digital 

1017
00:43:51,866 --> 00:43:54,467
take for example the digital 
agenda uh for us because our 

1018
00:43:54,467 --> 00:43:56,200
agenda uh for us because our 
our uh because of our 

1019
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,200
our uh because of our 
fundamental values. It’s 

1020
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,866
fundamental values. It’s 
important that we develop a 

1021
00:44:00,866 --> 00:44:02,234
important that we develop a 
very strong ambition related to 

1022
00:44:02,234 --> 00:44:03,767
very strong ambition related to 
the related to the digital 

1023
00:44:03,767 --> 00:44:06,366
the related to the digital 
agenda taking into 

1024
00:44:06,366 --> 00:44:07,400
agenda taking into 
consideration the privacy uh 

1025
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,000
consideration the privacy uh 
the freedoms, which in my 

1026
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,600
the freedoms, which in my 
opinion, is in need in need and 

1027
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,400
opinion, is in need in need and 
value. That’s why we need to 

1028
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,600
value. That’s why we need to 
promote with China with United 

1029
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,366
promote with China with United 
States with other regions of 

1030
00:44:17,366 --> 00:44:19,533
States with other regions of 
the world our European our 

1031
00:44:19,533 --> 00:44:20,634
the world our European our 
European approach point, 

1032
00:44:20,634 --> 00:44:23,333
European approach point, 
entwine and .2. uh it’s the 

1033
00:44:23,333 --> 00:44:24,099
entwine and .2. uh it’s the 
possible for me to predict what 

1034
00:44:24,099 --> 00:44:25,533
possible for me to predict what 
will happen in the United 

1035
00:44:25,533 --> 00:44:28,967
will happen in the United 
States after the next elections 

1036
00:44:28,967 --> 00:44:31,334
States after the next elections 
in this country. But in any 

1037
00:44:31,334 --> 00:44:34,234
in this country. But in any 
case I hope after the elections 

1038
00:44:34,234 --> 00:44:35,834
case I hope after the elections 
in the United States uh that we 

1039
00:44:35,834 --> 00:44:38,367
in the United States uh that we 
will have a due to strong uh 

1040
00:44:38,367 --> 00:44:40,934
will have a due to strong uh 
debate uh with the American 

1041
00:44:40,934 --> 00:44:42,700
debate uh with the American 
authorities uh in order to work 

1042
00:44:42,700 --> 00:44:45,000
authorities uh in order to work 
more together, It’s the. A 

1043
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,167
more together, It’s the. A 
level I just observed the last 

1044
00:44:48,167 --> 00:44:51,234
level I just observed the last 
uh the last year did not so 

1045
00:44:51,234 --> 00:44:54,533
uh the last year did not so 
easy for the EU to keep a 

1046
00:44:54,533 --> 00:44:57,134
easy for the EU to keep a 
permanent channel of dialogue 

1047
00:44:57,134 --> 00:45:00,367
permanent channel of dialogue 
of negotiation uh with our very 

1048
00:45:00,367 --> 00:45:02,133
of negotiation uh with our very 
important to the United States, 

1049
00:45:02,133 --> 00:45:04,200
important to the United States, 
we will see what will be 

1050
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,733
we will see what will be 
possible in any case we 

1051
00:45:05,733 --> 00:45:08,700
possible in any case we 
consider as you uh that we need 

1052
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:11,233
consider as you uh that we need 
to follow this uh disapprove 

1053
00:45:11,233 --> 00:45:13,400
to follow this uh disapprove 
China that we have developed 

1054
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,800
China that we have developed 
together, which is clear this. 

1055
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,333
together, which is clear this. 
A Choice we have our European 

1056
00:45:18,333 --> 00:45:19,966
A Choice we have our European 
values, we promote our values. 

1057
00:45:19,966 --> 00:45:22,267
values, we promote our values. 
we don’t hesitate to 

1058
00:45:22,267 --> 00:45:24,234
we don’t hesitate to 
destruction of home. uh the uh 

1059
00:45:24,234 --> 00:45:27,867
destruction of home. uh the uh 
the way the minorities are not 

1060
00:45:27,867 --> 00:45:30,201
the way the minorities are not 
respected uh in in some uh 

1061
00:45:30,201 --> 00:45:32,267
respected uh in in some uh 
regions in in in China and we 

1062
00:45:32,267 --> 00:45:33,800
regions in in in China and we 
don’t hesitate to explain to 

1063
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,933
don’t hesitate to explain to 
the Chinese authorities that we 

1064
00:45:34,933 --> 00:45:36,700
the Chinese authorities that we 
are ready to continue to engage 

1065
00:45:36,700 --> 00:45:38,933
are ready to continue to engage 
with them at the level, for 

1066
00:45:38,933 --> 00:45:39,867
with them at the level, for 
example, but it is important 

1067
00:45:39,867 --> 00:45:42,367
example, but it is important 
for us to re balance this 

1068
00:45:42,367 --> 00:45:43,700
for us to re balance this 
relationship and I hope that in 

1069
00:45:43,700 --> 00:45:44,467
relationship and I hope that in 
the next months by the end of 

1070
00:45:44,467 --> 00:45:46,833
the next months by the end of 
the year, I hope. Not certain, 

1071
00:45:46,833 --> 00:45:48,234
the year, I hope. Not certain, 
but I hope that it will be 

1072
00:45:48,234 --> 00:45:50,000
but I hope that it will be 
possible to deliver and why is 

1073
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,434
possible to deliver and why is 
it important to be clear and to 

1074
00:45:52,434 --> 00:45:53,967
it important to be clear and to 
be united because for China if 

1075
00:45:53,967 --> 00:45:56,433
be united because for China if 
we are clear if we speak with a 

1076
00:45:56,433 --> 00:45:58,633
we are clear if we speak with a 
clear voice and if we are 

1077
00:45:58,633 --> 00:46:01,267
clear voice and if we are 
united, then we are in a better 

1078
00:46:01,267 --> 00:46:03,400
united, then we are in a better 
position in order to defend our 

1079
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:09,467
position in order to defend our 
common interests. So would be 

1080
00:46:09,467 --> 00:46:11,833
common interests. So would be 
ready to use our uh you know uh 

1081
00:46:11,833 --> 00:46:14,233
ready to use our uh you know uh 
unity um to defend some of our 

1082
00:46:14,233 --> 00:46:15,699
unity um to defend some of our 
values in a strong way, for 

1083
00:46:15,699 --> 00:46:18,433
values in a strong way, for 
example, when it comes to 

1084
00:46:18,433 --> 00:46:19,934
example, when it comes to 
minority rights in China, I 

1085
00:46:19,934 --> 00:46:21,367
minority rights in China, I 
give, for example, I was very 

1086
00:46:21,367 --> 00:46:22,833
give, for example, I was very 
clear during this virtual 

1087
00:46:22,833 --> 00:46:24,300
clear during this virtual 
summit, which first was a very 

1088
00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:27,733
summit, which first was a very 
important uh to to to send uh 

1089
00:46:27,733 --> 00:46:30,667
important uh to to to send uh 
European teams or even uh you 

1090
00:46:30,667 --> 00:46:33,301
European teams or even uh you 
and uh teams in the regions in 

1091
00:46:33,301 --> 00:46:34,467
and uh teams in the regions in 
order to have a political 

1092
00:46:34,467 --> 00:46:36,567
order to have a political 
dialogue about about different 

1093
00:46:36,567 --> 00:46:38,333
dialogue about about different 
topics of human rights included 

1094
00:46:38,333 --> 00:46:40,766
topics of human rights included 
um this message is a very clear 

1095
00:46:40,766 --> 00:46:44,799
um this message is a very clear 
message and We need to be proud 

1096
00:46:44,799 --> 00:46:47,867
message and We need to be proud 
of our European values uh last 

1097
00:46:47,867 --> 00:46:50,233
of our European values uh last 
week we had the General 

1098
00:46:50,233 --> 00:46:52,699
week we had the General 
Assembly the assembly of uh of 

1099
00:46:52,699 --> 00:46:55,600
Assembly the assembly of uh of 
the UN, but also the values of 

1100
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,334
the UN, but also the values of 
the UN are based on the dignity 

1101
00:46:58,334 --> 00:47:00,000
the UN are based on the dignity 
uh uh based on the human rights 

1102
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,901
uh uh based on the human rights 
uh and that’s why we we promote 

1103
00:47:02,901 --> 00:47:07,633
uh and that’s why we we promote 
this approach. So one person um 

1104
00:47:07,633 --> 00:47:09,533
this approach. So one person um 
here on uh on and please join 

1105
00:47:09,533 --> 00:47:11,133
here on uh on and please join 
us on slide or for more 

1106
00:47:11,133 --> 00:47:12,867
us on slide or for more 
questions is asking the 

1107
00:47:12,867 --> 00:47:13,267
questions is asking the 
question about the 

1108
00:47:13,267 --> 00:47:14,667
question about the 
international role of the euro. 

1109
00:47:14,667 --> 00:47:16,767
international role of the euro. 
Um there was a big push in back 

1110
00:47:16,767 --> 00:47:19,400
Um there was a big push in back 
in twenty 1819 um to promote 

1111
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:20,967
in twenty 1819 um to promote 
the international role of the 

1112
00:47:20,967 --> 00:47:23,933
the international role of the 
euro that was in the wake of 

1113
00:47:23,933 --> 00:47:25,467
euro that was in the wake of 
Iran, a very much um in the 

1114
00:47:25,467 --> 00:47:27,699
Iran, a very much um in the 
wake of pressure um on 

1115
00:47:27,699 --> 00:47:29,100
wake of pressure um on 
financially monitoring 

1116
00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:30,967
financially monitoring 
institutions to engage in any 

1117
00:47:30,967 --> 00:47:31,667
institutions to engage in any 
business with Iran, which in 

1118
00:47:31,667 --> 00:47:33,266
business with Iran, which in 
the end undermined our ability 

1119
00:47:33,266 --> 00:47:38,367
the end undermined our ability 
really to um. Continue doing 

1120
00:47:38,367 --> 00:47:38,999
really to um. Continue doing 
business and fulfilling our 

1121
00:47:38,999 --> 00:47:42,467
business and fulfilling our 
part of the deal with um with 

1122
00:47:42,467 --> 00:47:45,200
part of the deal with um with 
Iran um that’s sort of 

1123
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,400
Iran um that’s sort of 
discussion has quieted down a 

1124
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,500
discussion has quieted down a 
little bit. You mentioned it in 

1125
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:50,833
little bit. You mentioned it in 
your speech now um quite 

1126
00:47:50,833 --> 00:47:52,600
your speech now um quite 
prominently again. Um we have 

1127
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,800
prominently again. Um we have 
of course created a major safe 

1128
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,933
of course created a major safe 
asset will be about to create 

1129
00:47:56,933 --> 00:47:58,900
asset will be about to create 
it um with the new bonds in the 

1130
00:47:58,900 --> 00:48:01,266
it um with the new bonds in the 
in the next generation EU. But 

1131
00:48:01,266 --> 00:48:02,733
in the next generation EU. But 
how do you see this going 

1132
00:48:02,733 --> 00:48:04,000
how do you see this going 
forward and how strongly do you 

1133
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,333
forward and how strongly do you 
want to promote the 

1134
00:48:05,333 --> 00:48:06,933
want to promote the 
international role of the euro 

1135
00:48:06,933 --> 00:48:10,400
international role of the euro 
very quickly? 

1136
00:48:37,700 --> 00:48:39,667
To the rest of the of the world 

1137
00:48:39,667 --> 00:48:41,767
To the rest of the of the world 
.1, but of course we need to 

1138
00:48:41,767 --> 00:48:42,867
.1, but of course we need to 
continue to work. It’s not easy 

1139
00:48:42,867 --> 00:48:45,300
continue to work. It’s not easy 
on some other important topics 

1140
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:47,500
on some other important topics 
like uh the the banking union 

1141
00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:49,400
like uh the the banking union 
like the capital Markets Union 

1142
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,400
like the capital Markets Union 
uh in uh with the new president 

1143
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,300
uh in uh with the new president 
of the euro, we will work very 

1144
00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:55,167
of the euro, we will work very 
closely in order to prepare the 

1145
00:48:55,167 --> 00:48:57,467
closely in order to prepare the 
next uh euros to the level of 

1146
00:48:57,467 --> 00:49:00,634
next uh euros to the level of 
uh uh the European but there 

1147
00:49:00,634 --> 00:49:01,400
uh uh the European but there 
are also some interesting 

1148
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,300
are also some interesting 
topics that maybe we need to 

1149
00:49:03,300 --> 00:49:04,433
topics that maybe we need to 
talk in the in the future. The 

1150
00:49:04,433 --> 00:49:08,667
talk in the in the future. The 
fact that uh the the. The the 

1151
00:49:08,667 --> 00:49:11,133
fact that uh the the. The the 
the the the the the payments to 

1152
00:49:11,133 --> 00:49:15,067
the the the the the payments to 
the payments means uh outside 

1153
00:49:15,067 --> 00:49:16,734
the payments means uh outside 
of uh of your maybe it also to 

1154
00:49:16,734 --> 00:49:20,199
of uh of your maybe it also to 
think about the possibility as 

1155
00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:25,800
think about the possibility as 
EU to to develop our own and 

1156
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,767
EU to to develop our own and 
strategy on this topic. Let’s 

1157
00:49:29,767 --> 00:49:32,333
strategy on this topic. Let’s 
rock abit about äh board 

1158
00:49:32,333 --> 00:49:33,933
rock abit about äh board 
Russia. Ähm we have a question 

1159
00:49:33,933 --> 00:49:37,467
Russia. Ähm we have a question 
from äh from äh 

1160
00:49:37,667 --> 00:49:40,301
in die Ordiens ähm Dependent on 

1161
00:49:40,301 --> 00:49:41,767
in die Ordiens ähm Dependent on 
Importing Natural Gast and Old 

1162
00:49:41,767 --> 00:49:44,699
Importing Natural Gast and Old 
From Russia. Whiches Political 

1163
00:49:44,699 --> 00:49:47,233
From Russia. Whiches Political 
Use bei Moskau. What is the you 

1164
00:49:47,233 --> 00:49:51,333
Use bei Moskau. What is the you 
doing to sho and this and 

1165
00:49:51,333 --> 00:49:52,867
doing to sho and this and 
healthy connection. This eh are 

1166
00:49:52,867 --> 00:49:55,100
healthy connection. This eh are 
to nice it’s eh doulition 

1167
00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:56,267
to nice it’s eh doulition 
sheepres and we will so is äh 

1168
00:49:56,267 --> 00:49:59,933
sheepres and we will so is äh 
is defitulent is And the 

1169
00:49:59,933 --> 00:50:02,000
is defitulent is And the 
different sensitivities in in 

1170
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,400
different sensitivities in in 
in Europe uh and and certainly 

1171
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:04,800
in Europe uh and and certainly 
we have different topics 

1172
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,667
we have different topics 
related to the relationship we 

1173
00:50:06,667 --> 00:50:08,667
related to the relationship we 
have with Russia Energy is so 

1174
00:50:08,667 --> 00:50:11,267
have with Russia Energy is so 
important topic but also uh 

1175
00:50:11,267 --> 00:50:13,000
important topic but also uh 
security. uh what about the 

1176
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,800
security. uh what about the 
economic development? Uh we we 

1177
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,266
economic development? Uh we we 
know that uh we have decided to 

1178
00:50:19,266 --> 00:50:22,233
know that uh we have decided to 
uh uh sanctions against uh 

1179
00:50:22,233 --> 00:50:24,733
uh uh sanctions against uh 
against uh Russia and I intent 

1180
00:50:24,733 --> 00:50:27,033
against uh Russia and I intent 
uh like we did for China like 

1181
00:50:27,033 --> 00:50:30,800
uh like we did for China like 
we are. Uh for the east and I 

1182
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,500
we are. Uh for the east and I 
intend in the next month to 

1183
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:34,634
intend in the next month to 
open a debate at the level of 

1184
00:50:34,634 --> 00:50:36,367
open a debate at the level of 
the European Council uh on the 

1185
00:50:36,367 --> 00:50:38,767
the European Council uh on the 
on the Russia because I think 

1186
00:50:38,767 --> 00:50:40,400
on the Russia because I think 
indeed that uh it will be 

1187
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:41,967
indeed that uh it will be 
important to have a common 

1188
00:50:41,967 --> 00:50:45,434
important to have a common 
vision to have a common goal uh 

1189
00:50:45,434 --> 00:50:48,400
vision to have a common goal uh 
to uh be very clear and we are 

1190
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,634
to uh be very clear and we are 
very clear uh we need to be 

1191
00:50:51,634 --> 00:50:52,467
very clear uh we need to be 
respected all our members 

1192
00:50:52,467 --> 00:50:54,801
respected all our members 
states in Europe needs to be to 

1193
00:50:54,801 --> 00:50:57,234
states in Europe needs to be to 
be a respected and we will not 

1194
00:50:57,234 --> 00:50:58,334
be a respected and we will not 
vote have in the next month uh 

1195
00:50:58,334 --> 00:51:01,533
vote have in the next month uh 
a series. On the future of our 

1196
00:51:01,533 --> 00:51:03,767
a series. On the future of our 
relationship with this part of 

1197
00:51:03,767 --> 00:51:05,300
relationship with this part of 
the world, so it should be uh 

1198
00:51:05,300 --> 00:51:09,300
the world, so it should be uh 
should we end up stream to? 

1199
00:51:37,834 --> 00:51:39,667
So so so so they have many 

1200
00:51:39,667 --> 00:51:40,933
So so so so they have many 
questions in different 

1201
00:51:40,933 --> 00:51:42,667
questions in different 
directions coming here in uh in 

1202
00:51:42,667 --> 00:51:44,933
directions coming here in uh in 
in uh in our feed, so please 

1203
00:51:44,933 --> 00:51:46,533
in uh in our feed, so please 
join the feed if you have last 

1204
00:51:46,533 --> 00:51:49,067
join the feed if you have last 
question, I can ask one or two 

1205
00:51:49,067 --> 00:51:50,667
question, I can ask one or two 
more questions um but I really 

1206
00:51:50,667 --> 00:51:52,534
more questions um but I really 
see two or two more questions 

1207
00:51:52,534 --> 00:51:55,299
see two or two more questions 
that I find stand out um uh one 

1208
00:51:55,299 --> 00:51:56,933
that I find stand out um uh one 
is on this and you mentioned 

1209
00:51:56,933 --> 00:51:58,233
is on this and you mentioned 
the euro summit and the 

1210
00:51:58,233 --> 00:51:59,299
the euro summit and the 
promotion of the international 

1211
00:51:59,299 --> 00:52:00,933
promotion of the international 
world of the euro is the 

1212
00:52:00,933 --> 00:52:03,367
world of the euro is the 
question of uh sort of euro 

1213
00:52:03,367 --> 00:52:05,267
question of uh sort of euro 
zone or EU finance minister and 

1214
00:52:05,267 --> 00:52:08,367
zone or EU finance minister and 
um uh someone. To hear what uh 

1215
00:52:08,367 --> 00:52:09,967
um uh someone. To hear what uh 
in the audience was to see 

1216
00:52:09,967 --> 00:52:11,467
in the audience was to see 
whether we should reopen that 

1217
00:52:11,467 --> 00:52:12,767
whether we should reopen that 
debate over whether the debate 

1218
00:52:12,767 --> 00:52:14,333
debate over whether the debate 
has already been settled in the 

1219
00:52:14,333 --> 00:52:16,667
has already been settled in the 
EU finance ministers our 

1220
00:52:16,667 --> 00:52:19,233
EU finance ministers our 
commissioner uh for for for for 

1221
00:52:19,233 --> 00:52:21,767
commissioner uh for for for for 
um or how do you see that that 

1222
00:52:21,767 --> 00:52:24,434
um or how do you see that that 
position going forward? I have 

1223
00:52:24,434 --> 00:52:25,933
position going forward? I have 
the impression that uh we uh 

1224
00:52:25,933 --> 00:52:27,634
the impression that uh we uh 
we’re in a strong preparation 

1225
00:52:27,634 --> 00:52:30,833
we’re in a strong preparation 
between the commission uh and 

1226
00:52:30,833 --> 00:52:33,866
between the commission uh and 
uh the president of the euro 

1227
00:52:33,866 --> 00:52:35,467
uh the president of the euro 
the euro group uh it’s possible 

1228
00:52:35,467 --> 00:52:37,966
the euro group uh it’s possible 
to make to. Progress and have 

1229
00:52:37,966 --> 00:52:39,467
to make to. Progress and have 
been pushed to the to the 

1230
00:52:39,467 --> 00:52:42,000
been pushed to the to the 
priority uh in the next month 

1231
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,333
priority uh in the next month 
should be uh the banking union 

1232
00:52:44,333 --> 00:52:45,967
should be uh the banking union 
and the capital market. I think 

1233
00:52:45,967 --> 00:52:47,600
and the capital market. I think 
it’s very it’s a treat and it 

1234
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,767
it’s very it’s a treat and it 
would have more effect. I think 

1235
00:52:49,767 --> 00:52:53,000
would have more effect. I think 
uh that’s uh the possibility of 

1236
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,967
uh that’s uh the possibility of 
uh uh one more European 

1237
00:52:54,967 --> 00:52:58,033
uh uh one more European 
personality. Okay. So, so 

1238
00:52:58,033 --> 00:52:59,400
personality. Okay. So, so 
perhaps the last question I 

1239
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,834
perhaps the last question I 
really wanna ask is about um 

1240
00:53:01,834 --> 00:53:03,234
really wanna ask is about um 
since we discussed all the 

1241
00:53:03,234 --> 00:53:04,600
since we discussed all the 
trade issues quite a lot is 

1242
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,300
trade issues quite a lot is 
about the Tony and very 

1243
00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:08,433
about the Tony and very 
important issue of carbon 

1244
00:53:08,433 --> 00:53:09,933
important issue of carbon 
border adjustment mechanism, 

1245
00:53:09,933 --> 00:53:12,633
border adjustment mechanism, 
which is last year by a person 

1246
00:53:12,633 --> 00:53:14,201
which is last year by a person 
in the audience. um uh he or 

1247
00:53:14,201 --> 00:53:16,400
in the audience. um uh he or 
she wants to hear what’s your 

1248
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,234
she wants to hear what’s your 
view on the impact on 

1249
00:53:18,234 --> 00:53:19,167
view on the impact on 
developing countries. um 

1250
00:53:19,167 --> 00:53:21,133
developing countries. um 
perhaps what I would would add 

1251
00:53:21,133 --> 00:53:23,367
perhaps what I would would add 
is um what what is your view? 

1252
00:53:23,367 --> 00:53:24,767
is um what what is your view? 
also on this mechanism with the 

1253
00:53:24,767 --> 00:53:28,000
also on this mechanism with the 
United States. It seems to me 

1254
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,666
United States. It seems to me 
that um the possible Biden 

1255
00:53:30,666 --> 00:53:33,833
that um the possible Biden 
president has already made 

1256
00:53:33,833 --> 00:53:35,866
president has already made 
strong statements about um 

1257
00:53:35,866 --> 00:53:38,000
strong statements about um 
climate policy and about being 

1258
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,667
climate policy and about being 
a priority and about, of 

1259
00:53:39,667 --> 00:53:40,699
a priority and about, of 
course, also the need to have 

1260
00:53:40,699 --> 00:53:42,533
course, also the need to have 
some sort of an external 

1261
00:53:42,533 --> 00:53:44,267
some sort of an external 
adjustment mechanism, Carbon 

1262
00:53:44,267 --> 00:53:46,301
adjustment mechanism, Carbon 
border adjustment mechanism 

1263
00:53:46,301 --> 00:53:48,000
border adjustment mechanism 
would that be a transatlantic 

1264
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,466
would that be a transatlantic 
agenda also to really work on 

1265
00:53:50,466 --> 00:53:51,967
agenda also to really work on 
carbon border adjustment and 

1266
00:53:51,967 --> 00:53:53,534
carbon border adjustment and 
the transatlantic trade 

1267
00:53:53,534 --> 00:53:54,333
the transatlantic trade 
relation together with the 

1268
00:53:54,333 --> 00:53:57,934
relation together with the 
United States have. 

1269
00:54:27,100 --> 00:54:28,801
Sectors in Europe um different 

1270
00:54:28,801 --> 00:54:30,167
Sectors in Europe um different 
opinions on that because uh the 

1271
00:54:30,167 --> 00:54:33,199
opinions on that because uh the 
the uh can be uh in the details 

1272
00:54:33,199 --> 00:54:34,701
the uh can be uh in the details 
and uh based on the possible 

1273
00:54:34,701 --> 00:54:38,867
and uh based on the possible 
modalities uh this good idea um 

1274
00:54:38,867 --> 00:54:41,133
modalities uh this good idea um 
can be efficient or not really 

1275
00:54:41,133 --> 00:54:42,534
can be efficient or not really 
efficient and can be also 

1276
00:54:42,534 --> 00:54:44,933
efficient and can be also 
counter productive. but at the 

1277
00:54:44,933 --> 00:54:46,600
counter productive. but at the 
same time, I’m personally 

1278
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:47,899
same time, I’m personally 
convinced that we need to make 

1279
00:54:47,899 --> 00:54:49,233
convinced that we need to make 
progress on this topic with the 

1280
00:54:49,233 --> 00:54:51,767
progress on this topic with the 
European Parliament with the 

1281
00:54:51,767 --> 00:54:53,100
European Parliament with the 
council with the Commission. uh 

1282
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:54,267
council with the Commission. uh 
we will see what will be the 

1283
00:54:54,267 --> 00:54:56,700
we will see what will be the 
proposals that the. Put on the 

1284
00:54:56,700 --> 00:54:58,667
proposals that the. Put on the 
table on that it will be an 

1285
00:54:58,667 --> 00:55:00,801
table on that it will be an 
interesting indeed uh in order 

1286
00:55:00,801 --> 00:55:03,333
interesting indeed uh in order 
to nourish the political 

1287
00:55:03,333 --> 00:55:04,733
to nourish the political 
dialogue with our life in the 

1288
00:55:04,733 --> 00:55:06,333
dialogue with our life in the 
United States, but also with uh 

1289
00:55:06,333 --> 00:55:08,900
United States, but also with uh 
all the regions in the world or 

1290
00:55:08,900 --> 00:55:09,867
all the regions in the world or 
the countries in the world like 

1291
00:55:09,867 --> 00:55:11,966
the countries in the world like 
China like China, for example, 

1292
00:55:11,966 --> 00:55:15,933
China like China, for example, 
but I would like to be clear uh 

1293
00:55:15,933 --> 00:55:18,333
but I would like to be clear uh 
the cabin uh measure adjustment 

1294
00:55:18,333 --> 00:55:20,900
the cabin uh measure adjustment 
uh should be uh in the link 

1295
00:55:20,900 --> 00:55:23,467
uh should be uh in the link 
with our ETS system and we need 

1296
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with our ETS system and we need 
to tackle at the same time in 

1297
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to tackle at the same time in 
parallel this. Reform with an 

1298
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parallel this. Reform with an 
improvement of our ETS system 

1299
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improvement of our ETS system 
and our ETC can also be uh uh a 

1300
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,100
and our ETC can also be uh uh a 
business uh an inspiration for 

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business uh an inspiration for 
all the regions in the world 

1302
00:55:38,667 --> 00:55:39,633
all the regions in the world 
for all the countries in the 

1303
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for all the countries in the 
world in order to to implement 

1304
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world in order to to implement 
such a strategy in order to be 

1305
00:55:43,966 --> 00:55:45,299
such a strategy in order to be 
certain to make progress uh 

1306
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certain to make progress uh 
without the creation of climate 

1307
00:55:47,799 --> 00:55:49,367
without the creation of climate 
change uh and I can imagine 

1308
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change uh and I can imagine 
it’s with China, for example in 

1309
00:55:50,767 --> 00:55:52,467
it’s with China, for example in 
the future it can always India 

1310
00:55:52,467 --> 00:55:54,634
the future it can always India 
in the future. It can be uh 

1311
00:55:54,634 --> 00:55:57,934
in the future. It can be uh 
very uh interesting. Pot You 

1312
00:55:57,934 --> 00:56:01,333
very uh interesting. Pot You 
need to take together. 

1313
00:56:32,367 --> 00:56:35,800
Very important partner for many 

1314
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,333
Very important partner for many 
reasons in this part of the 

1315
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reasons in this part of the 
world, that’s why we’ll have a 

1316
00:56:38,167 --> 00:56:40,267
world, that’s why we’ll have a 
summit next year with uh with 

1317
00:56:40,267 --> 00:56:42,000
summit next year with uh with 
India was important for me uh 

1318
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,634
India was important for me uh 
not only to be engaged with 

1319
00:56:44,634 --> 00:56:46,133
not only to be engaged with 
China was important for me. 

1320
00:56:46,133 --> 00:56:49,400
China was important for me. 
also to signal that uh in an 

1321
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:50,867
also to signal that uh in an 
important partner in many in 

1322
00:56:50,867 --> 00:56:53,733
important partner in many in 
many ways we are working uh in 

1323
00:56:53,733 --> 00:56:54,800
many ways we are working uh in 
preparation of uh of this uh 

1324
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,667
preparation of uh of this uh 
summit and I’m confident I have 

1325
00:56:57,667 --> 00:56:58,967
summit and I’m confident I have 
the impression, especially at 

1326
00:56:58,967 --> 00:57:00,000
the impression, especially at 
the level of the digital agenda 

1327
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,734
the level of the digital agenda 
and the creation of uh. Data 

1328
00:57:02,734 --> 00:57:05,333
and the creation of uh. Data 
that you have many topics uh 

1329
00:57:05,333 --> 00:57:06,867
that you have many topics uh 
that we need to do with China 

1330
00:57:06,867 --> 00:57:09,333
that we need to do with China 
in order to try to develop more 

1331
00:57:09,333 --> 00:57:11,333
in order to try to develop more 
approach with this uh with this 

1332
00:57:11,333 --> 00:57:13,467
approach with this uh with this 
which will play for obvious 

1333
00:57:13,467 --> 00:57:15,267
which will play for obvious 
reasons also for demographic 

1334
00:57:15,267 --> 00:57:17,767
reasons also for demographic 
reasons a very important role 

1335
00:57:17,767 --> 00:57:19,300
reasons a very important role 
in the next decade. Mister 

1336
00:57:19,300 --> 00:57:21,266
in the next decade. Mister 
President you’ve been very 

1337
00:57:21,266 --> 00:57:21,867
President you’ve been very 
generous with your time. Thank 

1338
00:57:21,867 --> 00:57:25,333
generous with your time. Thank 
you so much uh for this very 

1339
00:57:25,333 --> 00:57:26,666
you so much uh for this very 
fruitful debate and the great 

1340
00:57:26,666 --> 00:57:29,266
fruitful debate and the great 
uh exchange of ideas. Um I 

1341
00:57:29,266 --> 00:57:30,767
uh exchange of ideas. Um I 
think it was a pleasure and or 

1342
00:57:30,767 --> 00:57:32,299
think it was a pleasure and or 
audience was very engaged. so 

1343
00:57:32,299 --> 00:57:33,667
audience was very engaged. so 
thank you very much. Thank you 

1344
00:57:33,667 --> 00:57:35,967
thank you very much. Thank you 
for joining us today. Thank 

1345
00:57:35,967 --> 00:57:39,166
for joining us today. Thank 
you. Thank you.