1 00:09:40,667 --> 00:09:43,633 And uh I’m very sorry that uh 2 00:09:43,633 --> 00:09:47,167 And uh I’m very sorry that uh second wave of uh is now uh 3 00:09:47,167 --> 00:09:47,900 second wave of uh is now uh attacking the European 4 00:09:47,900 --> 00:09:50,000 attacking the European countries, especially and in 5 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,667 countries, especially and in Japan uh uh oh. uh mortality is 6 00:09:54,667 --> 00:09:58,567 Japan uh uh oh. uh mortality is now about five to ten people in 7 00:09:58,567 --> 00:10:00,533 now about five to ten people in each day and new infection is 8 00:10:00,533 --> 00:10:03,367 each day and new infection is about 500 or so, but still the 9 00:10:03,367 --> 00:10:06,466 about 500 or so, but still the life is uh threatened and also 10 00:10:06,466 --> 00:10:09,933 life is uh threatened and also uh uh uh problems for education 11 00:10:09,933 --> 00:10:11,967 uh uh uh problems for education because universities are closed 12 00:10:11,967 --> 00:10:16,467 because universities are closed and most of the uh. 13 00:13:29,866 --> 00:13:31,467 Protocol issues of mental 14 00:13:31,467 --> 00:13:34,933 Protocol issues of mental issues even and also there was 15 00:13:34,933 --> 00:13:37,233 issues even and also there was an idea of uh uh protecting 16 00:13:37,233 --> 00:13:39,266 an idea of uh uh protecting technologies over the countries 17 00:13:39,266 --> 00:13:41,699 technologies over the countries or companies we can adjust uh 18 00:13:41,699 --> 00:13:45,234 or companies we can adjust uh the uh make uh uh these 19 00:13:45,234 --> 00:13:46,000 the uh make uh uh these technologies uh interrupt your 20 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,767 technologies uh interrupt your property rights and so on uh 21 00:13:49,767 --> 00:13:51,533 property rights and so on uh taken uh by a stolen, even by 22 00:13:51,533 --> 00:13:53,400 taken uh by a stolen, even by other countries we need to 23 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,201 other countries we need to protect those things uh it’s uh 24 00:13:56,201 --> 00:13:57,967 protect those things uh it’s uh also right of countries or 25 00:13:57,967 --> 00:13:59,134 also right of countries or companies to protect the prop 26 00:13:59,134 --> 00:14:00,933 companies to protect the prop right because there. Investment 27 00:14:00,933 --> 00:14:03,533 right because there. Investment to produce those things and 28 00:14:03,533 --> 00:14:05,700 to produce those things and also there was an idea of of 29 00:14:05,700 --> 00:14:07,600 also there was an idea of of the supply chain disruptions 30 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,000 the supply chain disruptions for any reasons, including 31 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,634 for any reasons, including natural disasters sometimes uh 32 00:14:12,634 --> 00:14:14,234 natural disasters sometimes uh supply chain over a global 33 00:14:14,234 --> 00:14:16,766 supply chain over a global value chain is disrupted and 34 00:14:16,766 --> 00:14:18,533 value chain is disrupted and unless we have a second option 35 00:14:18,533 --> 00:14:21,833 unless we have a second option if there is a concentrations of 36 00:14:21,833 --> 00:14:23,666 if there is a concentrations of productions and so in certain 37 00:14:23,666 --> 00:14:25,967 productions and so in certain areas in certain country uh it 38 00:14:25,967 --> 00:14:30,367 areas in certain country uh it is uh we will lose uh 39 00:14:30,367 --> 00:14:31,600 is uh we will lose uh everything and it is disrupted 40 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,534 everything and it is disrupted uh one. 41 00:15:23,967 --> 00:15:26,766 The next week please but uh 42 00:15:26,766 --> 00:15:29,266 The next week please but uh cannot and should not receive 43 00:15:29,266 --> 00:15:31,767 cannot and should not receive very much. although as I said I 44 00:15:31,767 --> 00:15:34,500 very much. although as I said I myself feel that the 45 00:15:34,500 --> 00:15:35,899 myself feel that the conversation should be adjusted 46 00:15:35,899 --> 00:15:39,333 conversation should be adjusted but uh it should do not and 47 00:15:39,333 --> 00:15:40,867 but uh it should do not and cannot receive very much 48 00:15:40,867 --> 00:15:42,800 cannot receive very much because trade and the 49 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:43,767 because trade and the interaction with the people 50 00:15:43,767 --> 00:15:44,767 interaction with the people have been the most important 51 00:15:44,767 --> 00:15:46,466 have been the most important elements of development of 52 00:15:46,466 --> 00:15:49,200 elements of development of human suicide human history 53 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,034 human suicide human history even uh 500 years before Christ 54 00:15:53,034 --> 00:15:55,299 even uh 500 years before Christ uh in Japan was a very uh kind 55 00:15:55,299 --> 00:15:56,434 uh in Japan was a very uh kind of regimen of society, but 56 00:15:56,434 --> 00:16:00,500 of regimen of society, but still they traded. 57 00:18:05,866 --> 00:18:09,400 Asia and Europe have been 58 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,066 Asia and Europe have been mainly over the globalization 59 00:18:11,066 --> 00:18:14,899 mainly over the globalization and Asia, especially East Asia. 60 00:18:14,899 --> 00:18:17,600 and Asia, especially East Asia. uh there has been uh very 61 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,367 uh there has been uh very strong uh movement to the the 62 00:18:21,367 --> 00:18:22,666 strong uh movement to the the globalization of supply chain 63 00:18:22,666 --> 00:18:25,801 globalization of supply chain connections and China has been 64 00:18:25,801 --> 00:18:30,667 connections and China has been uh this kind of uh. 65 00:25:02,233 --> 00:25:05,967 Actually around 1990s uh and 66 00:25:05,967 --> 00:25:09,800 Actually around 1990s uh and also and uh is the most 67 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,967 also and uh is the most important export destinations 68 00:25:11,967 --> 00:25:14,066 important export destinations for countries, although it is 69 00:25:14,066 --> 00:25:16,801 for countries, although it is often about it is not the US or 70 00:25:16,801 --> 00:25:18,300 often about it is not the US or China, which are the most 71 00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:20,166 China, which are the most important export this nation 72 00:25:20,166 --> 00:25:23,967 important export this nation for Philippines, Thailand and 73 00:25:23,967 --> 00:25:26,000 for Philippines, Thailand and Hong Kong uh Korea and even 74 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,933 Hong Kong uh Korea and even China through Hong Kong has 75 00:25:29,933 --> 00:25:33,767 China through Hong Kong has been uh very serious uh 76 00:25:33,767 --> 00:25:35,400 been uh very serious uh promoter of over the world and 77 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,000 promoter of over the world and also. In the region, but the 78 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,433 also. In the region, but the cooperative of circumstances 79 00:25:41,433 --> 00:25:44,000 cooperative of circumstances the being challenged by China’s 80 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,933 the being challenged by China’s growing as I say and the US 81 00:25:46,933 --> 00:25:51,767 growing as I say and the US China disputes the next page. 82 00:25:51,767 --> 00:25:55,067 China disputes the next page. So I think some states the 83 00:25:55,067 --> 00:25:56,233 So I think some states the foundation of democracy but by 84 00:25:56,233 --> 00:25:59,866 foundation of democracy but by voters and taxpayers so we 85 00:25:59,866 --> 00:26:02,466 voters and taxpayers so we cannot regard the system, 86 00:26:02,466 --> 00:26:04,600 cannot regard the system, including EU or United nations 87 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,534 including EU or United nations or whatever uh to so system I 88 00:26:09,534 --> 00:26:13,467 or whatever uh to so system I think system should be based on 89 00:26:13,467 --> 00:26:18,234 think system should be based on so arrangement but uh is 90 00:26:18,234 --> 00:26:20,201 so arrangement but uh is because it is uh the sole 91 00:26:20,201 --> 00:26:22,333 because it is uh the sole states uh once again the 92 00:26:22,333 --> 00:26:25,966 states uh once again the foundations of them. 93 00:28:38,466 --> 00:28:40,699 And although it is among most 94 00:28:40,699 --> 00:28:43,933 And although it is among most in the beginning uh but uh the 95 00:28:43,933 --> 00:28:46,567 in the beginning uh but uh the Japanese tried to have a 96 00:28:46,567 --> 00:28:47,767 Japanese tried to have a democratic system on its own 97 00:28:47,767 --> 00:28:53,733 democratic system on its own without any I mean uh forces uh 98 00:28:53,733 --> 00:28:55,434 without any I mean uh forces uh by other countries. uh there 99 00:28:55,434 --> 00:28:58,367 by other countries. uh there was a very strong movement. uh 100 00:28:58,367 --> 00:28:59,866 was a very strong movement. uh uh to Democrats influence by 101 00:28:59,866 --> 00:29:03,499 uh to Democrats influence by the franchise ideas or ideas 102 00:29:03,499 --> 00:29:05,867 the franchise ideas or ideas and so and also about the 103 00:29:05,867 --> 00:29:09,667 and so and also about the market Uh I mean a corporation 104 00:29:09,667 --> 00:29:13,600 market Uh I mean a corporation has very strong support. 105 00:30:25,801 --> 00:30:27,334 The prospect that will turn uh 106 00:30:27,334 --> 00:30:30,000 The prospect that will turn uh Japan, China has been always 107 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,800 Japan, China has been always and model for Japanese system, 108 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,833 and model for Japanese system, including Chinese characters 109 00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:37,500 including Chinese characters and capital cities, and uh 110 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:39,133 and capital cities, and uh everything is almost learned 111 00:30:39,133 --> 00:30:41,667 everything is almost learned from China. Japan has its own 112 00:30:41,667 --> 00:30:44,333 from China. Japan has its own culture so China should 113 00:30:44,333 --> 00:30:45,767 culture so China should continue to pass moderate 114 00:30:45,767 --> 00:30:47,600 continue to pass moderate policies by doing that. Uh 115 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,799 policies by doing that. Uh China can be even more 116 00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:52,299 China can be even more respected by Asian people and 117 00:30:52,299 --> 00:30:53,500 respected by Asian people and uh the global community so we 118 00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:56,600 uh the global community so we should uh China. Do that and we 119 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,633 should uh China. Do that and we should urge the us to 120 00:30:58,633 --> 00:31:01,767 should urge the us to understand that commitment to 121 00:31:01,767 --> 00:31:03,800 understand that commitment to system is needed for global 122 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,467 system is needed for global strategy and also for its own 123 00:31:07,467 --> 00:31:09,967 strategy and also for its own prosperity. and so in that uh 124 00:31:09,967 --> 00:31:11,400 prosperity. and so in that uh kind of uh activities by the 125 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,834 kind of uh activities by the United States is not the 126 00:31:13,834 --> 00:31:15,400 United States is not the majestic harmful to the world 127 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,933 majestic harmful to the world community, but also to the use 128 00:31:18,933 --> 00:31:21,933 community, but also to the use itself and uh we must continue 129 00:31:21,933 --> 00:31:24,800 itself and uh we must continue to promote uh globalism and 130 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,299 to promote uh globalism and within Asian European. And 131 00:31:28,299 --> 00:31:30,933 within Asian European. And through uh in compassing the 132 00:31:30,933 --> 00:31:33,567 through uh in compassing the two regions of Europe and Asia 133 00:31:33,567 --> 00:31:40,200 two regions of Europe and Asia by Japan and uh Europe the. 134 00:33:26,367 --> 00:33:30,267 Is uh is under uh he’s under 135 00:33:30,267 --> 00:33:33,767 Is uh is under uh he’s under stress and then you you finish 136 00:33:33,767 --> 00:33:35,433 stress and then you you finish by saying you know what uh what 137 00:33:35,433 --> 00:33:38,000 by saying you know what uh what you thought um both of us 138 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,767 you thought um both of us together uh need to do but also 139 00:33:39,767 --> 00:33:43,733 together uh need to do but also uh visa via China and the uh 140 00:33:43,733 --> 00:33:46,267 uh visa via China and the uh and and the United States. So I 141 00:33:46,267 --> 00:33:48,767 and and the United States. So I think you’ve laid down the 142 00:33:48,767 --> 00:33:51,200 think you’ve laid down the issues very well uh and uh you 143 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,401 issues very well uh and uh you know we can have a further 144 00:33:53,401 --> 00:33:55,067 know we can have a further conversation on those uh on 145 00:33:55,067 --> 00:33:57,333 conversation on those uh on those. Issues you know in a 146 00:33:57,333 --> 00:33:59,299 those. Issues you know in a panel discussion uh that is 147 00:33:59,299 --> 00:34:01,233 panel discussion uh that is starting that is starting off 148 00:34:01,233 --> 00:34:04,634 starting that is starting off so uh in addition uh to you 149 00:34:04,634 --> 00:34:07,300 so uh in addition uh to you chairman, we will have two uh 150 00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:09,667 chairman, we will have two uh two other panelists. uh one is 151 00:34:09,667 --> 00:34:11,867 two other panelists. uh one is miss who is a member of the uh 152 00:34:11,867 --> 00:34:14,500 miss who is a member of the uh of the year from Parliament and 153 00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:16,933 of the year from Parliament and welcome to you. Uh she’s the 154 00:34:16,933 --> 00:34:19,233 welcome to you. Uh she’s the head of delegation for the day 155 00:34:19,233 --> 00:34:21,267 head of delegation for the day uh Social Democrats in the 156 00:34:21,267 --> 00:34:23,533 uh Social Democrats in the European Parliament and she 157 00:34:23,533 --> 00:34:27,367 European Parliament and she serves uh. Is the instrument 158 00:34:27,367 --> 00:34:29,400 serves uh. Is the instrument from Anderson is the head of 159 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,234 from Anderson is the head of the European Parliament 160 00:34:31,234 --> 00:34:35,167 the European Parliament delegation uh to uh to Japan uh 161 00:34:35,167 --> 00:34:37,967 delegation uh to uh to Japan uh she’s involved in uh in several 162 00:34:37,967 --> 00:34:39,533 she’s involved in uh in several important uh important 163 00:34:39,533 --> 00:34:41,967 important uh important committees. Uh II understand 164 00:34:41,967 --> 00:34:45,500 committees. Uh II understand that you your your areas of 165 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:48,234 that you your your areas of focus of uh of uh great uh 166 00:34:48,234 --> 00:34:52,367 focus of uh of uh great uh great interest and and work uh 167 00:34:52,367 --> 00:34:54,467 great interest and and work uh revolve around uh some of those 168 00:34:54,467 --> 00:34:56,933 revolve around uh some of those great. Pressing issues linked 169 00:34:56,933 --> 00:34:59,167 great. Pressing issues linked to uh digital development 170 00:34:59,167 --> 00:35:01,000 to uh digital development linked to a link to uh to the 171 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,201 linked to a link to uh to the green that the green transition 172 00:35:03,201 --> 00:35:06,867 green that the green transition and also to uh consumer uh 173 00:35:06,867 --> 00:35:09,699 and also to uh consumer uh consumer protection. so uh from 174 00:35:09,699 --> 00:35:11,567 consumer protection. so uh from you uh in in the panel, you 175 00:35:11,567 --> 00:35:12,933 you uh in in the panel, you will make a statement. but then 176 00:35:12,933 --> 00:35:15,300 will make a statement. but then we’ll also obviously engage in 177 00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:18,700 we’ll also obviously engage in a in a discussion uh the uh 178 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:22,934 a in a discussion uh the uh third panelist um is my good 179 00:35:22,934 --> 00:35:26,167 third panelist um is my good friend uh uh. I’ve known each 180 00:35:26,167 --> 00:35:27,767 friend uh uh. I’ve known each other for a long long time and 181 00:35:27,767 --> 00:35:30,367 other for a long long time and we have collaborated on many 182 00:35:30,367 --> 00:35:33,200 we have collaborated on many many occasions on a number of 183 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,067 many occasions on a number of events uh professor professor 184 00:35:35,067 --> 00:35:38,800 events uh professor professor of economics at uh University 185 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,634 of economics at uh University in Tokyo, is also the chief 186 00:35:42,634 --> 00:35:44,767 in Tokyo, is also the chief economist that area the 187 00:35:44,767 --> 00:35:47,000 economist that area the Economic Research Institute uh 188 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,633 Economic Research Institute uh for Asian and East Asia, which 189 00:35:49,633 --> 00:35:53,334 for Asian and East Asia, which is based in Jakarta and um he 190 00:35:53,334 --> 00:35:58,933 is based in Jakarta and um he was the president of the. 191 00:36:58,167 --> 00:36:59,667 The floor is yours. Thank you 192 00:36:59,667 --> 00:37:01,234 The floor is yours. Thank you very much Andrea. It was a very 193 00:37:01,234 --> 00:37:03,134 very much Andrea. It was a very generous introduction. Thank 194 00:37:03,134 --> 00:37:06,767 generous introduction. Thank you very much uh was a really 195 00:37:06,767 --> 00:37:09,234 you very much uh was a really big story uh talking about 196 00:37:09,234 --> 00:37:10,767 big story uh talking about globalization or maybe high 197 00:37:10,767 --> 00:37:13,100 globalization or maybe high organization and the activism. 198 00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:15,200 organization and the activism. Uh I’m I’m really looking at 199 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,300 Uh I’m I’m really looking at the trade and development 200 00:37:17,300 --> 00:37:19,966 the trade and development issues underground Uh my talk 201 00:37:19,966 --> 00:37:21,533 issues underground Uh my talk is a bit bias throughout the 202 00:37:21,533 --> 00:37:24,966 is a bit bias throughout the Japan and actually, but uh on 203 00:37:24,966 --> 00:37:27,667 Japan and actually, but uh on the ground uh how people feel 204 00:37:27,667 --> 00:37:29,400 the ground uh how people feel in this current situation. 205 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,067 in this current situation. that’s uh my supplementary 206 00:37:31,067 --> 00:37:34,066 that’s uh my supplementary talk. 207 00:39:37,801 --> 00:39:40,401 On the country that the 208 00:39:40,401 --> 00:39:41,667 On the country that the distances are really different, 209 00:39:41,667 --> 00:39:43,267 distances are really different, some countries are closer to 210 00:39:43,267 --> 00:39:45,833 some countries are closer to the US. Some are close to the 211 00:39:45,833 --> 00:39:48,367 the US. Some are close to the uh to China and also uh the 212 00:39:48,367 --> 00:39:49,733 uh to China and also uh the arrangement of national 213 00:39:49,733 --> 00:39:51,400 arrangement of national security and are different too 214 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,634 security and are different too uh but uh but at least in a 215 00:39:54,634 --> 00:39:57,533 uh but uh but at least in a term our countries uh would 216 00:39:57,533 --> 00:40:01,600 term our countries uh would like to keep somehow uh but at 217 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,333 like to keep somehow uh but at the same time uh now some 218 00:40:03,333 --> 00:40:06,000 the same time uh now some companies are moving out of 219 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,133 companies are moving out of China. 220 00:43:43,533 --> 00:43:46,834 A plan of Action uh so they are 221 00:43:46,834 --> 00:43:48,466 A plan of Action uh so they are trying to cooperate with each 222 00:43:48,466 --> 00:43:52,467 trying to cooperate with each other and also CT uh TP Eleven 223 00:43:52,467 --> 00:43:55,467 other and also CT uh TP Eleven start working as a like minded 224 00:43:55,467 --> 00:43:56,900 start working as a like minded the middle power approach to 225 00:43:56,900 --> 00:43:58,666 the middle power approach to trade the not the justice of 226 00:43:58,666 --> 00:44:01,867 trade the not the justice of the trade memorization now and 227 00:44:01,867 --> 00:44:04,266 the trade memorization now and not trying to seek a sort of 228 00:44:04,266 --> 00:44:05,166 not trying to seek a sort of expansion of the membership and 229 00:44:05,166 --> 00:44:07,200 expansion of the membership and you are the negotiation with 230 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,967 you are the negotiation with the UK and others may that uh. 231 00:46:11,367 --> 00:46:13,801 A youthful very useful 232 00:46:13,801 --> 00:46:16,567 A youthful very useful presentation uh looking at um H 233 00:46:16,567 --> 00:46:21,134 presentation uh looking at um H and the but finishing uh on the 234 00:46:21,134 --> 00:46:24,300 and the but finishing uh on the uh uh on the issue that uh both 235 00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:27,234 uh uh on the issue that uh both Europe and and Japan together 236 00:46:27,234 --> 00:46:29,966 Europe and and Japan together uh can uh can approach so I’m 237 00:46:29,966 --> 00:46:32,334 uh can uh can approach so I’m I’m I’m very pleased not to uh 238 00:46:32,334 --> 00:46:36,299 I’m I’m very pleased not to uh to turn the floor to um to miss 239 00:46:36,299 --> 00:46:39,333 to turn the floor to um to miss demons uh and to hear uh the 240 00:46:39,333 --> 00:46:41,800 demons uh and to hear uh the European View uh of those. 241 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,367 European View uh of those. Those matters uh Christian, the 242 00:46:44,367 --> 00:46:46,833 Those matters uh Christian, the floor is yours. Thank you very 243 00:46:46,833 --> 00:46:48,100 floor is yours. Thank you very much for inviting me and I’m 244 00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:49,701 much for inviting me and I’m really happy to be here today 245 00:46:49,701 --> 00:46:52,333 really happy to be here today and discuss how we can create a 246 00:46:52,333 --> 00:46:55,333 and discuss how we can create a better world and keep having 247 00:46:55,333 --> 00:46:57,167 better world and keep having globalized world and multi 248 00:46:57,167 --> 00:46:58,900 globalized world and multi lateral system cuz I believe 249 00:46:58,900 --> 00:47:01,634 lateral system cuz I believe that is important and II really 250 00:47:01,634 --> 00:47:03,467 that is important and II really are worried about the multi 251 00:47:03,467 --> 00:47:05,933 are worried about the multi lateral word because it is 252 00:47:05,933 --> 00:47:08,133 lateral word because it is under pressure chairman said, 253 00:47:08,133 --> 00:47:11,000 under pressure chairman said, Came up with a lot of uh a good 254 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,134 Came up with a lot of uh a good uh things. Stating where we 255 00:47:13,134 --> 00:47:15,334 uh things. Stating where we have problems, I completely 256 00:47:15,334 --> 00:47:17,701 have problems, I completely agree that we need a 257 00:47:17,701 --> 00:47:19,367 agree that we need a multilateral world order, but 258 00:47:19,367 --> 00:47:20,799 multilateral world order, but we also need to discuss what 259 00:47:20,799 --> 00:47:24,267 we also need to discuss what kind of relaxation is the best 260 00:47:24,267 --> 00:47:26,967 kind of relaxation is the best so from European parliament’s 261 00:47:26,967 --> 00:47:28,766 so from European parliament’s perspective and I think that 262 00:47:28,766 --> 00:47:30,500 perspective and I think that the first of all it has never 263 00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:33,634 the first of all it has never been more important than now to 264 00:47:33,634 --> 00:47:36,799 been more important than now to have a well functioning word 265 00:47:36,799 --> 00:47:39,166 have a well functioning word order system. Uh we are 266 00:47:39,166 --> 00:47:40,867 order system. Uh we are threatened by so many things 267 00:47:40,867 --> 00:47:42,767 threatened by so many things the climate changes are really 268 00:47:42,767 --> 00:47:44,899 the climate changes are really here. now we see. And it will 269 00:47:44,899 --> 00:47:46,599 here. now we see. And it will become even worse if we don’t 270 00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:49,967 become even worse if we don’t act but want to see the crisis 271 00:47:49,967 --> 00:47:52,266 act but want to see the crisis and others. so I think it is 272 00:47:52,266 --> 00:47:52,900 and others. so I think it is important that we find a way 273 00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:54,266 important that we find a way out of this in order to make 274 00:47:54,266 --> 00:47:56,701 out of this in order to make sure that you still have a well 275 00:47:56,701 --> 00:48:00,267 sure that you still have a well functioning job. uh order and 276 00:48:00,267 --> 00:48:01,966 functioning job. uh order and and we’re also challenged 277 00:48:01,966 --> 00:48:04,934 and we’re also challenged because uh once as we heard 278 00:48:04,934 --> 00:48:08,333 because uh once as we heard chairman wants us was the. 279 00:48:08,333 --> 00:48:09,967 chairman wants us was the. World leader and promoter of 280 00:48:09,967 --> 00:48:12,666 World leader and promoter of veterans, but they are not and 281 00:48:12,666 --> 00:48:16,367 veterans, but they are not and longer and that leaves us in in 282 00:48:16,367 --> 00:48:18,166 longer and that leaves us in in kind of a back and I believe 283 00:48:18,166 --> 00:48:21,767 kind of a back and I believe that EU and Japan together can 284 00:48:21,767 --> 00:48:24,200 that EU and Japan together can do something in this area. I 285 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,867 do something in this area. I think first of all we have two 286 00:48:25,867 --> 00:48:28,567 think first of all we have two two uh ways of tackling this 287 00:48:28,567 --> 00:48:30,834 two uh ways of tackling this and they go hand in hand. First 288 00:48:30,834 --> 00:48:32,400 and they go hand in hand. First of all. I think it is important 289 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,367 of all. I think it is important that EU and Japan Act as role 290 00:48:36,367 --> 00:48:41,967 that EU and Japan Act as role models. In promoting so we need 291 00:48:41,967 --> 00:48:43,734 models. In promoting so we need to comply with international 292 00:48:43,734 --> 00:48:45,967 to comply with international law and order we need to make 293 00:48:45,967 --> 00:48:48,734 law and order we need to make the system work again. We need 294 00:48:48,734 --> 00:48:51,700 the system work again. We need to keep trade open um so kind 295 00:48:51,700 --> 00:48:55,333 to keep trade open um so kind of walk to talk. do what we 296 00:48:55,333 --> 00:48:57,834 of walk to talk. do what we tell others to do and do it 297 00:48:57,834 --> 00:48:59,300 tell others to do and do it together even more than we’re 298 00:48:59,300 --> 00:48:59,967 together even more than we’re doing today. And if it’s good, 299 00:48:59,967 --> 00:49:02,467 doing today. And if it’s good, we have the EP and the SP cuz 300 00:49:02,467 --> 00:49:04,800 we have the EP and the SP cuz that’s a really important step 301 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,867 that’s a really important step we took back in 2018 and I 302 00:49:07,867 --> 00:49:09,967 we took back in 2018 and I hope. We have only seen the 303 00:49:09,967 --> 00:49:11,467 hope. We have only seen the beginning of how this works, so 304 00:49:11,467 --> 00:49:14,167 beginning of how this works, so I mean being a role model is 305 00:49:14,167 --> 00:49:16,801 I mean being a role model is one way and an important way we 306 00:49:16,801 --> 00:49:18,599 one way and an important way we can show the way in order to 307 00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:21,800 can show the way in order to make uh our own countries and 308 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,667 make uh our own countries and regions more and more digital 309 00:49:24,667 --> 00:49:26,100 regions more and more digital and trade with the rest of the 310 00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:28,766 and trade with the rest of the world at the same time. But I 311 00:49:28,766 --> 00:49:30,267 world at the same time. But I also think that there is 312 00:49:30,267 --> 00:49:32,267 also think that there is another part of this. That is 313 00:49:32,267 --> 00:49:34,167 another part of this. That is very important. I think that EU 314 00:49:34,167 --> 00:49:36,667 very important. I think that EU and Japan together should 315 00:49:36,667 --> 00:49:38,534 and Japan together should promote multilateral uh work 316 00:49:38,534 --> 00:49:41,334 promote multilateral uh work for. In a more concrete man put 317 00:49:41,334 --> 00:49:43,400 for. In a more concrete man put a pressure on the United 318 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,299 a pressure on the United States, for instance to go back 319 00:49:45,299 --> 00:49:47,400 States, for instance to go back into the international 320 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,433 into the international organizations, WT United 321 00:49:51,433 --> 00:49:53,334 organizations, WT United Nations and joining the Paris 322 00:49:53,334 --> 00:49:55,866 Nations and joining the Paris agreement and all these things 323 00:49:55,866 --> 00:49:56,967 agreement and all these things we need to put a pressure on 324 00:49:56,967 --> 00:49:58,267 we need to put a pressure on the United States and I hope 325 00:49:58,267 --> 00:49:59,933 the United States and I hope that will be easier after the 326 00:49:59,933 --> 00:50:01,466 that will be easier after the third of November. hopefully 327 00:50:01,466 --> 00:50:03,700 third of November. hopefully and I’m honest here even though 328 00:50:03,700 --> 00:50:04,967 and I’m honest here even though I’m speaking out and honest, I 329 00:50:04,967 --> 00:50:05,700 I’m speaking out and honest, I really hope that we will get 330 00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:07,699 really hope that we will get the president in the United 331 00:50:07,699 --> 00:50:09,201 the president in the United States that will be more 332 00:50:09,201 --> 00:50:11,800 States that will be more willing to intervene into the 333 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,133 willing to intervene into the world, but I also think that 334 00:50:13,133 --> 00:50:17,867 world, but I also think that China. It causes some 335 00:50:17,867 --> 00:50:19,234 China. It causes some challenges for us. uh, for 336 00:50:19,234 --> 00:50:20,867 challenges for us. uh, for instance, we need them to 337 00:50:20,867 --> 00:50:21,967 instance, we need them to really and deeply be involved 338 00:50:21,967 --> 00:50:23,300 really and deeply be involved in the Paris agreement and we 339 00:50:23,300 --> 00:50:25,800 in the Paris agreement and we also need them to understand 340 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,967 also need them to understand that they are not any longer 341 00:50:27,967 --> 00:50:30,467 that they are not any longer developing country. They are uh 342 00:50:30,467 --> 00:50:31,966 developing country. They are uh willpower and therefore they 343 00:50:31,966 --> 00:50:33,801 willpower and therefore they also have to comply with the 344 00:50:33,801 --> 00:50:35,566 also have to comply with the rules they should go into look 345 00:50:35,566 --> 00:50:38,167 rules they should go into look at close to the state aid 346 00:50:38,167 --> 00:50:39,800 at close to the state aid problematic in China and we 347 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,700 problematic in China and we need to make sure that if we 348 00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:43,634 need to make sure that if we use a Chinese technologies in 349 00:50:43,634 --> 00:50:44,833 use a Chinese technologies in the West, we need us to be sure 350 00:50:44,833 --> 00:50:48,334 the West, we need us to be sure that. Enough stealing 351 00:50:48,334 --> 00:50:49,500 that. Enough stealing information from states they 352 00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:51,367 information from states they are cooperating with so I mean 353 00:50:51,367 --> 00:50:53,967 are cooperating with so I mean we have also EU Japan together 354 00:50:53,967 --> 00:50:58,667 we have also EU Japan together to put a pressure on China and 355 00:50:58,667 --> 00:51:00,200 to put a pressure on China and in the United States. and in 356 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,266 in the United States. and in that way, I think it is it 357 00:51:01,266 --> 00:51:02,834 that way, I think it is it could be possible to promote 358 00:51:02,834 --> 00:51:04,399 could be possible to promote multi lateral. so we have so 359 00:51:04,399 --> 00:51:06,733 multi lateral. so we have so many things to do, but my main 360 00:51:06,733 --> 00:51:08,666 many things to do, but my main message is being a role model 361 00:51:08,666 --> 00:51:11,000 message is being a role model and at one hand and the other 362 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,000 and at one hand and the other hand put pressure and advocate 363 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,734 hand put pressure and advocate more visible and clearly. 364 00:51:16,734 --> 00:51:20,334 more visible and clearly. Together for a multilateral 365 00:51:20,334 --> 00:51:24,234 Together for a multilateral world, thank you. Thank you and 366 00:51:24,234 --> 00:51:26,133 world, thank you. Thank you and thank you very much uh Kristen 367 00:51:26,133 --> 00:51:28,767 thank you very much uh Kristen uh those were very clear uh 368 00:51:28,767 --> 00:51:31,233 uh those were very clear uh very clear words that the role 369 00:51:31,233 --> 00:51:32,800 very clear words that the role model on the one hand and put 370 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,334 model on the one hand and put pressure on uh on China and the 371 00:51:36,334 --> 00:51:40,201 pressure on uh on China and the and the US on the uh on the 372 00:51:40,201 --> 00:51:41,767 and the US on the uh on the other so very, very, very clear 373 00:51:41,767 --> 00:51:44,900 other so very, very, very clear messages um so let me uh let me 374 00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:48,567 messages um so let me uh let me pick up from uh from what you 375 00:51:48,567 --> 00:51:51,533 pick up from uh from what you just said um to you know to to 376 00:51:51,533 --> 00:51:53,967 just said um to you know to to raise some issues and to 377 00:51:53,967 --> 00:51:56,633 raise some issues and to perhaps add some some of my own 378 00:51:56,633 --> 00:52:01,067 perhaps add some some of my own view. um so you you. 379 00:53:28,699 --> 00:53:30,201 Because of the coveted uh 380 00:53:30,201 --> 00:53:34,334 Because of the coveted uh crisis uh that is affected uh 381 00:53:34,334 --> 00:53:36,266 crisis uh that is affected uh very much certainly economies 382 00:53:36,266 --> 00:53:40,233 very much certainly economies in Europe and uh and and in 383 00:53:40,233 --> 00:53:41,967 in Europe and uh and and in North North America and since 384 00:53:41,967 --> 00:53:45,700 North North America and since more than in the in East Asia 385 00:53:45,700 --> 00:53:48,334 more than in the in East Asia um I think a President, Biden 386 00:53:48,334 --> 00:53:52,333 um I think a President, Biden will be a busy sort of 387 00:53:52,333 --> 00:53:54,300 will be a busy sort of rebuilding the uh the the US 388 00:53:54,300 --> 00:53:56,334 rebuilding the uh the the US economy and the issue with 389 00:53:56,334 --> 00:53:57,667 economy and the issue with China, we would not disappear. 390 00:53:57,667 --> 00:53:59,633 China, we would not disappear. Okay. This is something we. She 391 00:53:59,633 --> 00:54:03,400 Okay. This is something we. She goes beyond, I think the Trump 392 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,199 goes beyond, I think the Trump presidency uh the conflict with 393 00:54:05,199 --> 00:54:07,299 presidency uh the conflict with uh with China and I think you 394 00:54:07,299 --> 00:54:10,433 uh with China and I think you and I think all the speakers uh 395 00:54:10,433 --> 00:54:13,266 and I think all the speakers uh so far uh have insisted very 396 00:54:13,266 --> 00:54:18,199 so far uh have insisted very much on how uh you Europe and 397 00:54:18,199 --> 00:54:20,766 much on how uh you Europe and Japan together separately uh 398 00:54:20,766 --> 00:54:23,200 Japan together separately uh needs as you said, put pressure 399 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,299 needs as you said, put pressure on on the US or China or 400 00:54:25,299 --> 00:54:27,200 on on the US or China or convince them anyone can put it 401 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,199 convince them anyone can put it in whatever way one. 402 00:55:06,799 --> 00:55:10,267 We have taken we uh Europe and 403 00:55:10,267 --> 00:55:12,433 We have taken we uh Europe and Japan we have taken the back 404 00:55:12,433 --> 00:55:15,966 Japan we have taken the back seats uh in a sense in this 405 00:55:15,966 --> 00:55:19,967 seats uh in a sense in this fight between the US and uh and 406 00:55:19,967 --> 00:55:23,767 fight between the US and uh and China we are very much taken. 407 00:55:23,767 --> 00:55:26,167 China we are very much taken. The back seats right in a sense 408 00:55:26,167 --> 00:55:28,834 The back seats right in a sense that there’s been uh the first 409 00:55:28,834 --> 00:55:33,167 that there’s been uh the first level players us and China um 410 00:55:33,167 --> 00:55:34,800 level players us and China um they are making all the 411 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,833 they are making all the headlines and then we as we are 412 00:55:36,833 --> 00:55:37,666 headlines and then we as we are doing it. In this discussion, 413 00:55:37,666 --> 00:55:39,800 doing it. In this discussion, we are reacting right. How 414 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:40,800 we are reacting right. How should we position ourselves? 415 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,267 should we position ourselves? should we put pressure? should 416 00:55:43,267 --> 00:55:44,900 should we put pressure? should we convince them uh you know to 417 00:55:44,900 --> 00:55:47,700 we convince them uh you know to return to this but and and we 418 00:55:47,700 --> 00:55:50,467 return to this but and and we we do have uh Japan and and and 419 00:55:50,467 --> 00:55:53,067 we do have uh Japan and and and and the uh and and and the 420 00:55:53,067 --> 00:55:54,533 and the uh and and and the European Union we are sitting 421 00:55:54,533 --> 00:55:56,000 European Union we are sitting with the United States on on 422 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,333 with the United States on on the tri uh and we are able to. 423 00:55:58,333 --> 00:55:59,967 the tri uh and we are able to. Regular meetings and then each 424 00:55:59,967 --> 00:56:02,400 Regular meetings and then each of us we participate in all 425 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,400 of us we participate in all kinds of other uh for of the 426 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,000 kinds of other uh for of the multilateral and you can we we 427 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,233 multilateral and you can we we do all of those things but we 428 00:56:11,233 --> 00:56:13,834 do all of those things but we have really been second level 429 00:56:13,834 --> 00:56:15,100 have really been second level players here. There’s there’s 430 00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:16,899 players here. There’s there’s no there’s no doubt about that. 431 00:56:16,899 --> 00:56:19,200 no there’s no doubt about that. uh we have to accept the 432 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,733 uh we have to accept the reality. you know it maybe uh 433 00:56:20,733 --> 00:56:22,800 reality. you know it maybe uh maybe hard to be to accept. We 434 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,000 maybe hard to be to accept. We are such large players, but uh 435 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:30,133 are such large players, but uh we are not commence uh to. 436 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,833 That stupid pressure and they 437 00:57:30,833 --> 00:57:32,734 That stupid pressure and they they they they would do that 438 00:57:32,734 --> 00:57:34,767 they they they would do that The use would do that on that 439 00:57:34,767 --> 00:57:38,267 The use would do that on that one, but then I think the US a 440 00:57:38,267 --> 00:57:39,967 one, but then I think the US a President Biden assuming it’s a 441 00:57:39,967 --> 00:57:41,233 President Biden assuming it’s a present, Biden President Biden 442 00:57:41,233 --> 00:57:44,801 present, Biden President Biden will turn to Europe and Japan 443 00:57:44,801 --> 00:57:49,400 will turn to Europe and Japan and say guys uh we are we are 444 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,200 and say guys uh we are we are close allies we share values uh 445 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,867 close allies we share values uh we believe in corporation we 446 00:57:54,867 --> 00:57:59,834 we believe in corporation we believe in multilateral but. 447 00:59:56,267 --> 00:59:58,967 Change of the behavior and 448 00:59:58,967 --> 01:00:00,000 Change of the behavior and maybe of the behavior, but 449 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,834 maybe of the behavior, but after politics because there 450 01:00:01,834 --> 01:00:05,167 after politics because there are problems between us and 451 01:00:05,167 --> 01:00:06,699 are problems between us and China, but I think it is very 452 01:00:06,699 --> 01:00:08,267 China, but I think it is very much about the behavior. How do 453 01:00:08,267 --> 01:00:10,767 much about the behavior. How do how do you take these 454 01:00:10,767 --> 01:00:13,299 how do you take these conflicts? President Trump and 455 01:00:13,299 --> 01:00:14,799 conflicts? President Trump and his administration are very 456 01:00:14,799 --> 01:00:16,300 his administration are very keen on having the conflict 457 01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:19,666 keen on having the conflict because he can act as a strong 458 01:00:19,666 --> 01:00:21,467 because he can act as a strong man and send speaking dirty and 459 01:00:21,467 --> 01:00:22,801 man and send speaking dirty and things like that. I think it’s 460 01:00:22,801 --> 01:00:24,467 things like that. I think it’s hard. but I think that mister 461 01:00:24,467 --> 01:00:25,867 hard. but I think that mister Biden if he becomes a 462 01:00:25,867 --> 01:00:27,033 Biden if he becomes a president, we’ll do another 463 01:00:27,033 --> 01:00:27,967 president, we’ll do another manner so we will still have 464 01:00:27,967 --> 01:00:30,167 manner so we will still have the conflict. I think that what 465 01:00:30,167 --> 01:00:31,699 the conflict. I think that what we can do is that we can sit 466 01:00:31,699 --> 01:00:34,200 we can do is that we can sit down and talk about it 467 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:35,633 down and talk about it hopefully and that is more 468 01:00:35,633 --> 01:00:37,200 hopefully and that is more intellectual in a in a good 469 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,733 intellectual in a in a good manner. We sit around the table 470 01:00:38,733 --> 01:00:39,967 manner. We sit around the table and discussing how we can 471 01:00:39,967 --> 01:00:41,533 and discussing how we can tackle these things We might 472 01:00:41,533 --> 01:00:43,233 tackle these things We might not agree in the end, but we 473 01:00:43,233 --> 01:00:46,367 not agree in the end, but we try to talk and see if we can 474 01:00:46,367 --> 01:00:48,134 try to talk and see if we can find ways and sometimes we have 475 01:00:48,134 --> 01:00:50,867 find ways and sometimes we have to use that you know the the 476 01:00:50,867 --> 01:00:54,167 to use that you know the the global system and we have to 477 01:00:54,167 --> 01:00:55,967 global system and we have to have this intermediate systems 478 01:00:55,967 --> 01:00:57,433 have this intermediate systems where if we have a conflict, we 479 01:00:57,433 --> 01:00:58,700 where if we have a conflict, we can solve with maybe in vtwo 480 01:00:58,700 --> 01:01:01,200 can solve with maybe in vtwo and other places. So for me, I 481 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,734 and other places. So for me, I think it’s more a question. The 482 01:01:03,734 --> 01:01:05,667 think it’s more a question. The context that clearly are there 483 01:01:05,667 --> 01:01:08,433 context that clearly are there even with the president uh so 484 01:01:08,433 --> 01:01:12,167 even with the president uh so it’s it’s going back to a way 485 01:01:12,167 --> 01:01:14,167 it’s it’s going back to a way hopefully or in a renewed 486 01:01:14,167 --> 01:01:15,133 hopefully or in a renewed manner where we see each other 487 01:01:15,133 --> 01:01:17,567 manner where we see each other as partners that can talk 488 01:01:17,567 --> 01:01:19,767 as partners that can talk together in a dialogue and 489 01:01:19,767 --> 01:01:22,333 together in a dialogue and trying to find solutions and 490 01:01:22,333 --> 01:01:23,633 trying to find solutions and willingness to find solutions 491 01:01:23,633 --> 01:01:25,233 willingness to find solutions That is what I hope because I 492 01:01:25,233 --> 01:01:26,866 That is what I hope because I don’t expect the context to go 493 01:01:26,866 --> 01:01:29,234 don’t expect the context to go away and even in EU we have 494 01:01:29,234 --> 01:01:30,634 away and even in EU we have conflicts with China and so, of 495 01:01:30,634 --> 01:01:32,300 conflicts with China and so, of course, I don’t believe that we 496 01:01:32,300 --> 01:01:34,734 course, I don’t believe that we will have a better world 1 day 497 01:01:34,734 --> 01:01:37,534 will have a better world 1 day the first. After we potentially 498 01:01:37,534 --> 01:01:39,234 the first. After we potentially get a new president in in in 499 01:01:39,234 --> 01:01:41,100 get a new president in in in us, but I hope the way we’re 500 01:01:41,100 --> 01:01:42,133 us, but I hope the way we’re talking to each other would be 501 01:01:42,133 --> 01:01:44,833 talking to each other would be different and that can lead to 502 01:01:44,833 --> 01:01:47,167 different and that can lead to uh hopefully better solutions 503 01:01:47,167 --> 01:01:48,733 uh hopefully better solutions together. And so that is how I 504 01:01:48,733 --> 01:01:51,800 together. And so that is how I see. 505 01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:54,300 Thank you, Joe and yes, I think 506 01:01:54,300 --> 01:01:55,200 Thank you, Joe and yes, I think very much about the United 507 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,234 very much about the United States and I’m very briefly I 508 01:01:58,234 --> 01:02:00,333 States and I’m very briefly I think uh United States come 509 01:02:00,333 --> 01:02:02,434 think uh United States come back to the original portions 510 01:02:02,434 --> 01:02:05,167 back to the original portions of uh playing a leading role in 511 01:02:05,167 --> 01:02:06,799 of uh playing a leading role in the international community. 512 01:02:06,799 --> 01:02:08,467 the international community. They now look at the cost of 513 01:02:08,467 --> 01:02:10,733 They now look at the cost of doing it uh more serious, 514 01:02:10,733 --> 01:02:12,499 doing it uh more serious, including uh shedding the blood 515 01:02:12,499 --> 01:02:16,000 including uh shedding the blood before soldiers and uh paying a 516 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,933 before soldiers and uh paying a lot of uh I mean uh economic 517 01:02:18,933 --> 01:02:23,334 lot of uh I mean uh economic cost for security issues. 518 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:11,533 We lost we lost you. 519 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,367 We lost uh yeah, it is uh one 520 01:04:14,367 --> 01:04:17,201 We lost uh yeah, it is uh one coming back. Yes. thank you so 521 01:04:17,201 --> 01:04:18,734 coming back. Yes. thank you so we should uh understand the 522 01:04:18,734 --> 01:04:21,334 we should uh understand the feeling Chinese and also they 523 01:04:21,334 --> 01:04:23,267 feeling Chinese and also they are seriously uh trying to 524 01:04:23,267 --> 01:04:24,667 are seriously uh trying to tackle climate change issues 525 01:04:24,667 --> 01:04:26,633 tackle climate change issues and they also want to support 526 01:04:26,633 --> 01:04:29,167 and they also want to support other country so and also their 527 01:04:29,167 --> 01:04:31,133 other country so and also their attitude the road to there is 528 01:04:31,133 --> 01:04:34,367 attitude the road to there is an idea that it is a kind of uh 529 01:04:34,367 --> 01:04:36,000 an idea that it is a kind of uh a death trap that in my 530 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:36,599 a death trap that in my understanding that they are 531 01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:39,799 understanding that they are doing this without uh a really 532 01:04:39,799 --> 01:04:40,433 doing this without uh a really clear idea of what is a 533 01:04:40,433 --> 01:04:42,466 clear idea of what is a consequence of doing all these 534 01:04:42,466 --> 01:04:43,966 consequence of doing all these things uh they learned a lot 535 01:04:43,966 --> 01:04:48,133 things uh they learned a lot and uh in a. 536 01:07:22,367 --> 01:07:26,000 Thank you. let me turn to uh to 537 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,866 Thank you. let me turn to uh to you and let me ask you uh 538 01:07:28,866 --> 01:07:31,367 you and let me ask you uh somewhat different related but 539 01:07:31,367 --> 01:07:32,033 somewhat different related but somewhat somewhat different 540 01:07:32,033 --> 01:07:35,333 somewhat somewhat different question and that is to do with 541 01:07:35,333 --> 01:07:37,967 question and that is to do with um with climate and climate 542 01:07:37,967 --> 01:07:41,734 um with climate and climate issues Um I think climate um 543 01:07:41,734 --> 01:07:43,267 issues Um I think climate um and that’s what I would like to 544 01:07:43,267 --> 01:07:45,801 and that’s what I would like to hear your views. I mean climate 545 01:07:45,801 --> 01:07:53,067 hear your views. I mean climate um could be uh an issue uh. 546 01:08:52,233 --> 01:08:54,700 Europe China the United States 547 01:08:54,700 --> 01:08:56,367 Europe China the United States and obviously the entire 548 01:08:56,367 --> 01:08:58,000 and obviously the entire international community can 549 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,567 international community can make progress and concrete 550 01:09:01,567 --> 01:09:03,800 make progress and concrete concrete uh concrete progress 551 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,233 concrete uh concrete progress now. II want to ask you a 552 01:09:07,233 --> 01:09:09,633 now. II want to ask you a question on the trade side 553 01:09:09,633 --> 01:09:10,900 question on the trade side since you’re your your 554 01:09:10,900 --> 01:09:12,433 since you’re your your presentation was from the 555 01:09:12,433 --> 01:09:15,034 presentation was from the trades and trade your trade 556 01:09:15,034 --> 01:09:19,266 trades and trade your trade professor um as you know, uh 557 01:09:19,266 --> 01:09:22,701 professor um as you know, uh the European Union uh and 558 01:09:22,701 --> 01:09:25,767 the European Union uh and mistaken elite uh wishes to 559 01:09:25,767 --> 01:09:28,467 mistaken elite uh wishes to take a lead in fighting uh 560 01:09:28,467 --> 01:09:30,766 take a lead in fighting uh climate change with the 561 01:09:30,766 --> 01:09:33,467 climate change with the European Green deal and um that 562 01:09:33,467 --> 01:09:37,300 European Green deal and um that may include. 563 01:09:49,700 --> 01:09:52,500 So III want to hear a little 564 01:09:52,500 --> 01:09:54,600 So III want to hear a little from you both from the 565 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,400 from you both from the bilateral sites. I mean we do 566 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:57,633 bilateral sites. I mean we do have you know people have 567 01:09:57,633 --> 01:09:59,200 have you know people have recorded. We have the EP on 568 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,466 recorded. We have the EP on bilateral trade agreement 569 01:10:01,466 --> 01:10:05,300 bilateral trade agreement between and uh and Japan very 570 01:10:05,300 --> 01:10:06,699 between and uh and Japan very very successful and very 571 01:10:06,699 --> 01:10:09,933 very successful and very ambitious one. but you know how 572 01:10:09,933 --> 01:10:12,266 ambitious one. but you know how do you see the European 573 01:10:12,266 --> 01:10:15,167 do you see the European measures uh about uh climate 574 01:10:15,167 --> 01:10:17,900 measures uh about uh climate change? Uh how do you see that 575 01:10:17,900 --> 01:10:20,301 change? Uh how do you see that affecting in the? Positive and 576 01:10:20,301 --> 01:10:23,166 affecting in the? Positive and negative manner the by election 577 01:10:23,166 --> 01:10:24,700 negative manner the by election uh trade relationship between 578 01:10:24,700 --> 01:10:28,500 uh trade relationship between uh between two or two sides and 579 01:10:28,500 --> 01:10:32,199 uh between two or two sides and also the the global level uh 580 01:10:32,199 --> 01:10:36,400 also the the global level uh you see a need for uh updating 581 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,766 you see a need for uh updating Wt roots again to concrete, you 582 01:10:38,766 --> 01:10:39,400 Wt roots again to concrete, you know all of us have been 583 01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,799 know all of us have been talking of you know uh the 584 01:10:42,799 --> 01:10:44,667 talking of you know uh the importance of the yes but uh 585 01:10:44,667 --> 01:10:47,167 importance of the yes but uh then that means returning to 586 01:10:47,167 --> 01:10:51,400 then that means returning to Geneva and uh. 587 01:11:58,234 --> 01:12:00,800 Uh so II understand that the 588 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,234 Uh so II understand that the particular code uh we are many 589 01:12:03,234 --> 01:12:04,634 particular code uh we are many countries are using a lot of 590 01:12:04,634 --> 01:12:06,533 countries are using a lot of coal and there are other types 591 01:12:06,533 --> 01:12:10,234 coal and there are other types of fuels. So how are we gonna 592 01:12:10,234 --> 01:12:11,700 of fuels. So how are we gonna get out of this kind of 593 01:12:11,700 --> 01:12:12,701 get out of this kind of situation? Still, we are 594 01:12:12,701 --> 01:12:14,833 situation? Still, we are discussing that kind of things 595 01:12:14,833 --> 01:12:17,767 discussing that kind of things a lot uh so certainly a global 596 01:12:17,767 --> 01:12:19,199 a lot uh so certainly a global warming is a really big worry 597 01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:22,000 warming is a really big worry uh so we have to see you have 598 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,699 uh so we have to see you have to do something but uh not 599 01:12:23,699 --> 01:12:26,233 to do something but uh not really jump into a kind of a 600 01:12:26,233 --> 01:12:27,667 really jump into a kind of a green uh discussion. that’s one 601 01:12:27,667 --> 01:12:31,800 green uh discussion. that’s one thing so uh. 602 01:14:38,333 --> 01:14:40,767 About the objectives that we 603 01:14:40,767 --> 01:14:42,466 About the objectives that we have agreed upon uh then I 604 01:14:42,466 --> 01:14:45,667 have agreed upon uh then I think we need to start acting 605 01:14:45,667 --> 01:14:48,700 think we need to start acting now and uh the European Union 606 01:14:48,700 --> 01:14:51,700 now and uh the European Union seems to be uh wanting to have 607 01:14:51,700 --> 01:14:53,967 seems to be uh wanting to have already extremely ambitious 608 01:14:53,967 --> 01:14:55,967 already extremely ambitious objective by uh objectives by 609 01:14:55,967 --> 01:14:59,133 objective by uh objectives by by 2030, so already put some of 610 01:14:59,133 --> 01:15:03,467 by 2030, so already put some of a midterm uh deadline. I think 611 01:15:03,467 --> 01:15:05,067 a midterm uh deadline. I think it’s right, you’re not going to 612 01:15:05,067 --> 01:15:07,634 it’s right, you’re not going to do this in 2049 so you need to 613 01:15:07,634 --> 01:15:10,200 do this in 2049 so you need to you know shed your effort 614 01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,966 you know shed your effort between none and. 615 01:16:16,733 --> 01:16:20,200 Countries make it difficult to 616 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,200 Countries make it difficult to guide China if that also means 617 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,967 guide China if that also means actions that China does not 618 01:16:25,967 --> 01:16:29,767 actions that China does not like would like to um to 619 01:16:29,767 --> 01:16:32,033 like would like to um to respond to this uh to this 620 01:16:32,033 --> 01:16:35,166 respond to this uh to this question. 621 01:16:37,367 --> 01:16:39,867 Use the yes uh I’ve been to 622 01:16:39,867 --> 01:16:41,699 Use the yes uh I’ve been to China Sixteen times and uh I 623 01:16:41,699 --> 01:16:43,600 China Sixteen times and uh I have a very good relationship 624 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,333 have a very good relationship with the uh Chinese authorities 625 01:16:45,333 --> 01:16:47,967 with the uh Chinese authorities uh including mister finance and 626 01:16:47,967 --> 01:16:50,000 uh including mister finance and even leaders and also central 627 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:54,866 even leaders and also central bank and also uh my question to 628 01:16:54,866 --> 01:16:57,166 bank and also uh my question to English. is to cooperate and we 629 01:16:57,166 --> 01:17:00,201 English. is to cooperate and we do co finance together although 630 01:17:00,201 --> 01:17:01,234 do co finance together although AB supports Asian Development 631 01:17:01,234 --> 01:17:05,133 AB supports Asian Development Bank supports AI by using uh 632 01:17:05,133 --> 01:17:08,233 Bank supports AI by using uh human resources or add to start 633 01:17:08,233 --> 01:17:09,933 human resources or add to start the project and to implement 634 01:17:09,933 --> 01:17:14,533 the project and to implement project so there are many. 635 01:17:45,233 --> 01:17:47,733 But to be nice to others means 636 01:17:47,733 --> 01:17:50,733 But to be nice to others means it’s nice to them. uh also in 637 01:17:50,733 --> 01:17:53,000 it’s nice to them. uh also in the long run so uh even if we 638 01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:54,800 the long run so uh even if we are dependent on China, like 639 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,266 are dependent on China, like many ways uh we should also uh 640 01:17:58,266 --> 01:18:02,800 many ways uh we should also uh evolve in uh China to better uh 641 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,799 evolve in uh China to better uh better directions. Uh they have 642 01:18:04,799 --> 01:18:07,000 better directions. Uh they have a potential to do that because 643 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,033 a potential to do that because they learned a lot uh in 50 644 01:18:09,033 --> 01:18:10,299 they learned a lot uh in 50 years ago, China is very poor 645 01:18:10,299 --> 01:18:12,667 years ago, China is very poor and it was the import 646 01:18:12,667 --> 01:18:14,133 and it was the import substitution country socialist 647 01:18:14,133 --> 01:18:16,434 substitution country socialist economy. But I turn around a 648 01:18:16,434 --> 01:18:18,666 economy. But I turn around a lot. That’s why it is more 649 01:18:18,666 --> 01:18:20,400 lot. That’s why it is more prosperous and I hope that 650 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,201 prosperous and I hope that China can again to fall to 651 01:18:23,201 --> 01:18:25,000 China can again to fall to their own interest and also to 652 01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,167 their own interest and also to the interest of global 653 01:18:26,167 --> 01:18:30,233 the interest of global community. Thank you very good 654 01:18:30,233 --> 01:18:33,034 community. Thank you very good words. Uh Kristen Thank you 655 01:18:33,034 --> 01:18:34,634 words. Uh Kristen Thank you very much well. It’s it’s a 656 01:18:34,634 --> 01:18:36,167 very much well. It’s it’s a very good question because it 657 01:18:36,167 --> 01:18:37,966 very good question because it is it is tricky because there’s 658 01:18:37,966 --> 01:18:40,100 is it is tricky because there’s no doubt that there is a kind 659 01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:41,967 no doubt that there is a kind of dependent financially 660 01:18:41,967 --> 01:18:45,900 of dependent financially economically of China and we 661 01:18:45,900 --> 01:18:48,267 economically of China and we see that individual countries 662 01:18:48,267 --> 01:18:49,834 see that individual countries also inside the European Union 663 01:18:49,834 --> 01:18:54,267 also inside the European Union sometimes are threatened if 664 01:18:54,267 --> 01:18:56,133 sometimes are threatened if they are too critical towards 665 01:18:56,133 --> 01:18:58,467 they are too critical towards China. They are afraid. Losing 666 01:18:58,467 --> 01:19:01,633 China. They are afraid. Losing Some of the trade with China 667 01:19:01,633 --> 01:19:03,799 Some of the trade with China but I also think that there is 668 01:19:03,799 --> 01:19:05,766 but I also think that there is a dependent the other way 669 01:19:05,766 --> 01:19:07,467 a dependent the other way around so it’s kind of 670 01:19:07,467 --> 01:19:10,700 around so it’s kind of independence 671 01:19:11,201 --> 01:19:13,800 and therefore um China, China 672 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,933 and therefore um China, China also need Europe and uh you 673 01:19:16,933 --> 01:19:19,167 also need Europe and uh you know I think it is so important 674 01:19:19,167 --> 01:19:23,200 know I think it is so important to fight for a well functioning 675 01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,766 to fight for a well functioning multi lateral system in the 676 01:19:25,766 --> 01:19:26,199 multi lateral system in the world where we don’t have to 677 01:19:26,199 --> 01:19:27,766 world where we don’t have to threat each other, but we will 678 01:19:27,766 --> 01:19:30,301 threat each other, but we will have conflicts with. Will not 679 01:19:30,301 --> 01:19:31,000 have conflicts with. Will not always agree on all things, but 680 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,334 always agree on all things, but we need to have a system and we 681 01:19:33,334 --> 01:19:34,233 we need to have a system and we need to be able to have a 682 01:19:34,233 --> 01:19:36,767 need to be able to have a dialogue with each other so 683 01:19:36,767 --> 01:19:38,400 dialogue with each other so with problems you need to be 684 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,867 with problems you need to be able to talk about it we need 685 01:19:40,867 --> 01:19:42,834 able to talk about it we need to respect to respect that we 686 01:19:42,834 --> 01:19:45,234 to respect to respect that we have to say that we are not 687 01:19:45,234 --> 01:19:46,467 have to say that we are not always happy with the way they 688 01:19:46,467 --> 01:19:47,700 always happy with the way they are acting when it comes to 689 01:19:47,700 --> 01:19:50,233 are acting when it comes to human rights for instance and 690 01:19:50,233 --> 01:19:50,933 human rights for instance and China to be able to say 691 01:19:50,933 --> 01:19:53,566 China to be able to say likewise to treat to EU if they 692 01:19:53,566 --> 01:19:56,667 likewise to treat to EU if they want to. But for me, it’s a 693 01:19:56,667 --> 01:19:58,500 want to. But for me, it’s a question of how to do it and 694 01:19:58,500 --> 01:19:59,700 question of how to do it and respecting each other as 695 01:19:59,700 --> 01:20:01,633 respecting each other as partners and. Be able to sit 696 01:20:01,633 --> 01:20:03,400 partners and. Be able to sit down and talk about it, but I 697 01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,667 down and talk about it, but I had to say that having had this 698 01:20:05,667 --> 01:20:08,199 had to say that having had this Kobe nineteen crisis Uh we see 699 01:20:08,199 --> 01:20:09,867 Kobe nineteen crisis Uh we see a discussion also internally in 700 01:20:09,867 --> 01:20:11,300 a discussion also internally in EU at the moment when it comes 701 01:20:11,300 --> 01:20:13,100 EU at the moment when it comes to for instance, supply chain 702 01:20:13,100 --> 01:20:16,433 to for instance, supply chain of masks and ventilators and 703 01:20:16,433 --> 01:20:17,833 of masks and ventilators and things like that and we were 704 01:20:17,833 --> 01:20:19,534 things like that and we were dependent on China in in the 705 01:20:19,534 --> 01:20:23,167 dependent on China in in the first weeks of the horrible and 706 01:20:23,167 --> 01:20:25,000 first weeks of the horrible and spring time with Covid-nineteen 707 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,400 spring time with Covid-nineteen Europe and that made us think 708 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:28,900 Europe and that made us think here in Europe. Can we do 709 01:20:28,900 --> 01:20:30,467 here in Europe. Can we do something to be less dependent 710 01:20:30,467 --> 01:20:32,733 something to be less dependent on China and at least spread 711 01:20:32,733 --> 01:20:37,067 on China and at least spread out our supply chain? 712 01:21:05,166 --> 01:21:07,700 In in certain areas, so I mean 713 01:21:07,700 --> 01:21:09,333 In in certain areas, so I mean it should be fair that we can 714 01:21:09,333 --> 01:21:10,566 it should be fair that we can have this kind of dialogue and 715 01:21:10,566 --> 01:21:12,733 have this kind of dialogue and still trade with each other, 716 01:21:12,733 --> 01:21:14,800 still trade with each other, but there isn’t dependent but 717 01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,133 but there isn’t dependent but IIII would say that it is an 718 01:21:17,133 --> 01:21:18,200 IIII would say that it is an interdependence and that might 719 01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:23,067 interdependence and that might be our best tool in this. 720 01:25:35,699 --> 01:25:39,734 So Kristen uh what is your 721 01:25:39,734 --> 01:25:41,367 So Kristen uh what is your reaction to this? uh it’s very 722 01:25:41,367 --> 01:25:42,400 reaction to this? uh it’s very it’s. It’s a very good 723 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,900 it’s. It’s a very good question. In fact, do we put 724 01:25:44,900 --> 01:25:46,467 question. In fact, do we put the bar too high? uh when we 725 01:25:46,467 --> 01:25:51,500 the bar too high? uh when we make a trade agreement. I would 726 01:25:51,500 --> 01:25:53,100 make a trade agreement. I would say no, I don’t think we could 727 01:25:53,100 --> 01:25:55,333 say no, I don’t think we could get to hide because I think 728 01:25:55,333 --> 01:25:57,967 get to hide because I think exactly that when you when 729 01:25:57,967 --> 01:26:00,533 exactly that when you when you’re in a negotiation on a 730 01:26:00,533 --> 01:26:01,767 you’re in a negotiation on a trade agreement, you’re sitting 731 01:26:01,767 --> 01:26:03,067 trade agreement, you’re sitting there and you want to create a 732 01:26:03,067 --> 01:26:04,701 there and you want to create a win win situation for both but 733 01:26:04,701 --> 01:26:07,200 win win situation for both but I mean if we are opening up our 734 01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,033 I mean if we are opening up our very important marketing EU for 735 01:26:09,033 --> 01:26:10,800 very important marketing EU for other countries, then we also 736 01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:12,167 other countries, then we also need to make sure that we have 737 01:26:12,167 --> 01:26:14,900 need to make sure that we have a level playing field that we 738 01:26:14,900 --> 01:26:17,633 a level playing field that we don’t see dumping of uh 739 01:26:17,633 --> 01:26:19,266 don’t see dumping of uh salaries or conditions at the 740 01:26:19,266 --> 01:26:20,500 salaries or conditions at the labor market, or, for instance, 741 01:26:20,500 --> 01:26:21,967 labor market, or, for instance, when it comes to environmental 742 01:26:21,967 --> 01:26:23,200 when it comes to environmental protection. So I think it’s 743 01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,900 protection. So I think it’s good that. Put up the bar quite 744 01:26:25,900 --> 01:26:28,167 good that. Put up the bar quite high because that is a way to 745 01:26:28,167 --> 01:26:32,433 high because that is a way to put a pressure on countries 746 01:26:32,433 --> 01:26:33,733 put a pressure on countries around the world. Of course, we 747 01:26:33,733 --> 01:26:35,667 around the world. Of course, we need to be pragmatic, but I 748 01:26:35,667 --> 01:26:37,300 need to be pragmatic, but I also think we are that in the 749 01:26:37,300 --> 01:26:38,900 also think we are that in the beginning we come up with a lot 750 01:26:38,900 --> 01:26:40,267 beginning we come up with a lot of demands and then during 751 01:26:40,267 --> 01:26:41,567 of demands and then during negotiations we find balance. 752 01:26:41,567 --> 01:26:42,867 negotiations we find balance. so I think it is good that we 753 01:26:42,867 --> 01:26:46,799 so I think it is good that we are putting up high demands 754 01:26:46,799 --> 01:26:48,766 are putting up high demands because we were not undermine 755 01:26:48,766 --> 01:26:49,801 because we were not undermine the work we’ve been doing in EU 756 01:26:49,801 --> 01:26:51,733 the work we’ve been doing in EU and we believe that we are an 757 01:26:51,733 --> 01:26:52,799 and we believe that we are an important market to be able to 758 01:26:52,799 --> 01:26:55,300 important market to be able to enter. But, of course, we also 759 01:26:55,300 --> 01:26:57,667 enter. But, of course, we also need to find a way and II think 760 01:26:57,667 --> 01:26:59,634 need to find a way and II think that trade agreements are very 761 01:26:59,634 --> 01:27:02,433 that trade agreements are very important tool in order to make 762 01:27:02,433 --> 01:27:03,933 important tool in order to make sure that the Paris agreement, 763 01:27:03,933 --> 01:27:05,734 sure that the Paris agreement, for instance, will be 764 01:27:05,734 --> 01:27:06,500 for instance, will be implemented throughout the 765 01:27:06,500 --> 01:27:07,900 implemented throughout the world and making sure that the 766 01:27:07,900 --> 01:27:09,734 world and making sure that the people around the world will 767 01:27:09,734 --> 01:27:11,500 people around the world will get better conditions. It’s a 768 01:27:11,500 --> 01:27:12,133 get better conditions. It’s a salaries and things like that. 769 01:27:12,133 --> 01:27:14,000 salaries and things like that. So I think it is an important 770 01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:14,833 So I think it is an important tool, but of course by the end 771 01:27:14,833 --> 01:27:15,734 tool, but of course by the end of the day we need to find the 772 01:27:15,734 --> 01:27:17,867 of the day we need to find the balance and we need to 773 01:27:17,867 --> 01:27:19,733 balance and we need to pragmatic, but I think we have 774 01:27:19,733 --> 01:27:22,099 pragmatic, but I think we have been so I think they are one of 775 01:27:22,099 --> 01:27:23,833 been so I think they are one of the good tools to try to 776 01:27:23,833 --> 01:27:28,133 the good tools to try to commence. Very good, very good. 777 01:27:28,133 --> 01:27:30,433 commence. Very good, very good. I think we can bring the 778 01:27:30,433 --> 01:27:33,367 I think we can bring the discussion to uh to end you’ve 779 01:27:33,367 --> 01:27:36,400 discussion to uh to end you’ve been all very generous. uh with 780 01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,634 been all very generous. uh with your with your time and also 781 01:27:38,634 --> 01:27:40,467 your with your time and also with your with your views. Uh I 782 01:27:40,467 --> 01:27:42,434 with your with your views. Uh I think this has been a very 783 01:27:42,434 --> 01:27:45,233 think this has been a very frank uh conversation um I 784 01:27:45,233 --> 01:27:48,233 frank uh conversation um I think very useful one and uh 785 01:27:48,233 --> 01:27:50,767 think very useful one and uh III very much appreciate the 786 01:27:50,767 --> 01:27:53,200 III very much appreciate the spirit of the discussion uh the 787 01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:54,733 spirit of the discussion uh the spirit not only of you know, 788 01:27:54,733 --> 01:27:59,000 spirit not only of you know, just words and. 789 01:28:44,267 --> 01:28:47,667 Ultimately will be only to work 790 01:28:47,667 --> 01:28:49,767 Ultimately will be only to work together uh to tackle those 791 01:28:49,767 --> 01:28:52,234 together uh to tackle those issues of 1 may have 792 01:28:52,234 --> 01:28:54,967 issues of 1 may have disagreement uh with uh with 793 01:28:54,967 --> 01:28:57,300 disagreement uh with uh with some of uh of of of the 794 01:28:57,300 --> 01:28:58,033 some of uh of of of the countries and that is only 795 01:28:58,033 --> 01:29:00,534 countries and that is only natural uh we all come. We all 796 01:29:00,534 --> 01:29:01,801 natural uh we all come. We all have our own history and you 797 01:29:01,801 --> 01:29:05,167 have our own history and you know uh you chairman uh 798 01:29:05,167 --> 01:29:06,634 know uh you chairman uh reminded of several occasion 799 01:29:06,634 --> 01:29:08,467 reminded of several occasion the sort of history uh the 800 01:29:08,467 --> 01:29:11,367 the sort of history uh the history of Japan the history of 801 01:29:11,367 --> 01:29:15,966 history of Japan the history of the engagement uh of Japan. 802 01:29:43,634 --> 01:29:45,400 Of those complicated issues, 803 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,667 Of those complicated issues, but we’re all on the same 804 01:29:47,667 --> 01:29:50,333 but we’re all on the same planets uh ultimately and uh 805 01:29:50,333 --> 01:29:53,067 planets uh ultimately and uh you also uh uh you know brought 806 01:29:53,067 --> 01:29:55,800 you also uh uh you know brought a very useful and very useful 807 01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:57,267 a very useful and very useful invitations uh very useful 808 01:29:57,267 --> 01:29:59,766 invitations uh very useful remarks on on on many of the 809 01:29:59,766 --> 01:30:02,300 remarks on on on many of the issues. so I think it was a 810 01:30:02,300 --> 01:30:04,767 issues. so I think it was a very constructive discussion at 811 01:30:04,767 --> 01:30:06,467 very constructive discussion at at a very important time uh 812 01:30:06,467 --> 01:30:08,767 at a very important time uh very important time also 813 01:30:08,767 --> 01:30:11,267 very important time also because as as you all recall at 814 01:30:11,267 --> 01:30:12,466 because as as you all recall at the start of the intervention, 815 01:30:12,466 --> 01:30:15,933 the start of the intervention, all of the.